[Vision2020] The Bible, Map or Territory

Fri Jan 19 17:54:01 PST 2007

No Gary,
I read a lot.
Been working on an Oliver HG 68 lately too, so maybe that’s it. Burning some 
iron here and there, a little welding too.
Do you trust Kim?...Maybe ask her what the truth is.
It seems to me you are beating me up just for kicks, and will admit that 
coming from you, It stings a bit. I could make fun of your person, but 
don’t, because that might hurt both of us and know it would hurt this one.
I happen to have some off time, so have been posting here more often.
If you find my misfitness less than appropriate on this island of misfit 
toys, then you just let me know.  You have some of the finest bullshit 
antennas anyone could be born with. Outside of being more mean than you 
realize. I know how to look beyond that and see your validity.

How about you raise the anti on my post about health and well being trumping 
property rights and thus impacting willing seller, willing buyer?

Dave

"The Vandals over the Bronco's. Chevy over ford. Shindaiwa over
>Huskvarna..DelMonty . So they are innocent by that standard or only as 
>guilty as any of us."
>
>Shake or bud? Drum or Zig-Zag? Bong or roach clip? Are they innocent of 
>being misused or is someone measurably guilty of posting, post inhalation? 
>"A vast writhing construct in the  head," to be sure!
>
>g
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>----- Original Message ----- From: "david sarff" <davesway at hotmail.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:53 PM
>Subject: [Vision2020] The Bible, Map or Territory
>
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>>If one stands on a tall local hill and gazes out over the Palouse. And 
>>then,
>>take a map out and hold it up in comparison . The maps reality and the
>>Palouse reality are a whole lot different. The map not being the territory
>>if you will. In my opinion this is the degree of accuracy that the bible 
>>or
>>any other religious works used as guides in life have to reality. The 
>>bible
>>is a print made by man. It is not reality but a guide like attempt at
>>describing something. That something is a whole lot bigger than us and 
>>built
>>all that is to be found, Its all around and interacts with all things. I 
>>am
>>an advocate of measuring things and my opinion is that our provably best
>>tools of measuring reality can be found in science and not blind faith to 
>>an
>>old map.
>>As far as I know, science was born from religious questioning and when the
>>most recent measurements show that the original cartographers were off a
>>long way, so what of it. I'll use a micrometer to measure the world with
>>accuracy over a string or my foot any day. That is until a measuring tool
>>that is more accurate comes along. (and that has already happened).
>>I can go along with the willing seller and willing buyer concept of 
>>letting
>>people choose religion or belief.
>>If I have a trouble with Christ Church. It is mostly when they take 
>>actions
>>as if they are at war with others and use their bible as a map to justify
>>that. I would respectfully ask them to retract that sort of thinking and
>>regroup. Odds seem to be against me and anyone who thinks otherwise. That 
>>is
>>the problem with the situation. If they didn't project that they were in a
>>war, they would find that they are not in a war. Sort of like Bush in that
>>respect. Not that there isn't a world to contend with and there are a lot 
>>of
>>closed minds, all sides involved
>>My present case opinion is that any real measure into how the Christian
>>bible was assembled, one has to come away questioning the foundation of 
>>the
>>document. Seeing it as the only map of reality mandated by a word of god
>>makes one a simple victim of branding. And provably so.
>>Within the willing seller willing buyer world, we see all kinds of 
>>branding.
>>The Vandals over the Bronco's. Chevy over ford. Shindaiwa over
>>Huskvarna..DelMonty . So they are innocent by that standard or only as
>>guilty as any of us.
>>Part of the whole function of living for humans is to project fanciful
>>mystery into the future and follow it. Unlike animals, as far as we know.
>>Persons can project in their present case minds just what they might do 
>>next
>>week, or next year. Unfortunately that natural specialization can cause
>>whole visions of forward projection and a vast writhing construct in the
>>head are still only a map to get to someplace and when getting there, 
>>things
>>are always different than we think its going to be. Because the silly map
>>gets confused for reality. That ability is the whole reason we are
>>successful at wrecking the planet, to fit our mental view, instead of
>>meeting it on its terms.
>>Life is what happens to us when we are making other plans, said one lovely
>>fellow.
>>The same guy got all beat up because he confirmed that it seemed as if his
>>band was more popular than Jesus. He was of course correct in recognizing
>>the effect of branding and guilty of nothing in his measurement of
>>observation.
>>
>>Good bye Leroy.
>>
>>Dave
>>
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