[Vision2020] The Bible, Map or Territory

[g. crabtree]

"The Vandals over the Bronco's. Chevy over ford. Shindaiwa over
Huskvarna..DelMonty . So they are innocent by that standard or only as 
guilty as any of us."

Shake or bud? Drum or Zig-Zag? Bong or roach clip? Are they innocent of 
being misused or is someone measurably guilty of posting, post inhalation? 
"A vast writhing construct in the  head," to be sure!

g

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "david sarff" <davesway at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:53 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] The Bible, Map or Territory


> If one stands on a tall local hill and gazes out over the Palouse. And 
> then,
> take a map out and hold it up in comparison . The maps reality and the
> Palouse reality are a whole lot different. The map not being the territory
> if you will. In my opinion this is the degree of accuracy that the bible 
> or
> any other religious works used as guides in life have to reality. The 
> bible
> is a print made by man. It is not reality but a guide like attempt at
> describing something. That something is a whole lot bigger than us and 
> built
> all that is to be found, Its all around and interacts with all things. I 
> am
> an advocate of measuring things and my opinion is that our provably best
> tools of measuring reality can be found in science and not blind faith to 
> an
> old map.
> As far as I know, science was born from religious questioning and when the
> most recent measurements show that the original cartographers were off a
> long way, so what of it. I'll use a micrometer to measure the world with
> accuracy over a string or my foot any day. That is until a measuring tool
> that is more accurate comes along. (and that has already happened).
> I can go along with the willing seller and willing buyer concept of 
> letting
> people choose religion or belief.
> If I have a trouble with Christ Church. It is mostly when they take 
> actions
> as if they are at war with others and use their bible as a map to justify
> that. I would respectfully ask them to retract that sort of thinking and
> regroup. Odds seem to be against me and anyone who thinks otherwise. That 
> is
> the problem with the situation. If they didn't project that they were in a
> war, they would find that they are not in a war. Sort of like Bush in that
> respect. Not that there isn't a world to contend with and there are a lot 
> of
> closed minds, all sides involved
> My present case opinion is that any real measure into how the Christian
> bible was assembled, one has to come away questioning the foundation of 
> the
> document. Seeing it as the only map of reality mandated by a word of god
> makes one a simple victim of branding. And provably so.
> Within the willing seller willing buyer world, we see all kinds of 
> branding.
> The Vandals over the Bronco's. Chevy over ford. Shindaiwa over
> Huskvarna..DelMonty . So they are innocent by that standard or only as
> guilty as any of us.
> Part of the whole function of living for humans is to project fanciful
> mystery into the future and follow it. Unlike animals, as far as we know.
> Persons can project in their present case minds just what they might do 
> next
> week, or next year. Unfortunately that natural specialization can cause
> whole visions of forward projection and a vast writhing construct in the
> head are still only a map to get to someplace and when getting there, 
> things
> are always different than we think its going to be. Because the silly map
> gets confused for reality. That ability is the whole reason we are
> successful at wrecking the planet, to fit our mental view, instead of
> meeting it on its terms.
> Life is what happens to us when we are making other plans, said one lovely
> fellow.
> The same guy got all beat up because he confirmed that it seemed as if his
> band was more popular than Jesus. He was of course correct in recognizing
> the effect of branding and guilty of nothing in his measurement of
> observation.
>
> Good bye Leroy.
>
> Dave
>
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