[Vision2020] Wolves
Carl Westberg
carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 18 07:49:25 PST 2007
"Whenever menaced or watched by a nonhuman predator, do not run!" I wish I
would have known that before my cat attacked me this morning. Carl
Westberg Jr.
>From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
>To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wolves
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 07:40:47 -0800
>
>This note may not be necessary, but:
>
>Whenever menaced or watched by a nonhuman predator, do not run!* When a
>possible prey runs from a predator, then it becomes actual prey in the eyes
>of the predator. If attacked, except by a grizzly bear, make your size
>larger (not unlike a house cat when attacked) and fight back. With
>grizzlies, some times they charge, then veer off at the last second and
>keep on moving. If they attack, the best chance for survival is to curl up
>and play dead.
>
>Yes, wolves, cougars, bears, etc do on rare occasions attack and kill
>humans, but not as often as some breeds of domestic dogs and certainly not
>nearly as often as other humans. Bovine bulls also attack and kill humans.
> When their young are threatened, their food supply in lean times are
>threatened, when tormented, or when in the rut, even cervine beasts can
>attack and occasionally kill -- the most common examples are persons
>attacked by elk or moose mothers with young, male elk or moose in the rut,
>moose in the winter protecting a food supply, and elk/moose just
>tormented/chased by a snowmobile or ATV. (In the latter case, I always
>root for the elk/moose.)
>
>Alertness and intelligent behavior can reduce the probability of being
>attacked by a predator or a non-predator protecting something.
>
>W.
>
>*Even a lumbering black bear can outrun the fastest horse over short
>distances.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Kai Eiselein
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:32 PM
>Subject: [Vision2020] Wolves
>
>
>Wolves can and do attack humans on occasion.
>Last July a woman was attacked at a campground in Alaska.
>In 2000, also in Alaska a 9-year-old boy was attacked, that same year a 23
>year old male was attacked in BC.
>I have a copy of a photo of a dog that was killed and eaten by wolves in
>Clearwater County. Its pretty grisly.
>There has been at least one verified case of wolves killing livestock near
>Kendrick, my brother in law was the farmer affected.
>There have been reports of wolf sightings near Troy, Deary and Bovill. I
>hope to one day be able to get out to one of the areas to get photographic
>evidence. (Yeah, I've got a really big lens that should do the trick)
>I saw what appeared to be a wolf early one morning between Kendrick and
>Troy about 4 years ago. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to grab my camera fast
>enough to document it.
>Wolves ARE dangerous animals and attacks ARE rare. I don't believe they are
>any more or less dangerous than bears or cougars/pumas/mountain lions.
>With that said, they ARE very intelligent pack hunters. I fear that if they
>remain protected they will lose their fear of humans and if that
>happens.... well, we've seen the results of that with bears and cougars.
>Therefore, I believe that managed hunting would help keep them fearful of
>humans, thus reducing the chances of human/wolf encounters.
>I'm sure a number of V2020ers have been nipped by a dog. It smarts a bit.
>Now imagine having those teeth sink into your flesh and rip it apart. Its
>not pretty and it hurts like hell.
>I've been bitten four times bad enough to require stitches/hospitlization.
>(Left upper arm, my right wrist, my upper lip, the right side of my jaw and
>the worst one of all, I had my left ear nearly bitten off.) No, I'm not
>afraid of dogs.
>I'd be willing to show the scars, just ask if you see me.
>I can only imagine what it what it would be like to be torn into by a wolf
>and I'd rather no one, especially a child, find out.
>To answer Tom Ivie's question: Yes coyotes will mate with dogs. One of my
>parents' shepherd bitches escaped her kennel while in heat and gave birth
>to a litter of coyote/shepherd pups. We kept one puppy that I really liked
>because he was all grey (Hence the name Grey One). He was tame, and very
>protective of me. But he was not, by any means, domesticated, his wildness
>was very much evident. He never tried to bite anyone, but his hackles would
>raise and he would give a low snarl if anyone got too close to him.
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