[Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......

Mark Solomon msolomon at moscow.com
Tue Jan 16 17:20:49 PST 2007


Matt,

I don't. I'd suggest directing inquiries to Les Macdonald, City 
Public Works Director.

lmacdonald at ci.moscow.id.us

m.

At 4:34 PM -0800 1/16/07, Matt Decker wrote:
>Mark,
>
>You said in one of your last posts that the city is paying 50K for a 
>survey. Do you know what this might include?
>
>Thanks
>Matt
>
>>From: Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com>
>>To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>, "keely emerinemix" 
>><kjajmix1 at msn.com>,        <anitasonriente at aol.com>
>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:00:26 -0800
>>
>>Hi Gary,
>>
>>While certainly not a statistically valid survey, I offer this 
>>observation as someone who is out at Winco shopping for my wife's 
>>restaurant at least three days a week: I have yet to see someone 
>>walking to the store or walking away with a grocery bag even though 
>>there are all those new/newish student apartment blocks within 200 
>>yards.
>>
>>And that's 600,000 square foot for the proposed Hawkins 
>>development, if that was what you were referring to. For comparison 
>>in size that would be about 15 acres under roof or six of the 
>>current WalMarts  or three East City Parks. I applaud the 
>>developers proposal to use rainwater collection/treated effluent 
>>for outdoor landscape irrigation, but that still leaves their 
>>estimated 40 acre foot per year that has to be pumped (about 12.6 
>>million gallons). As I've posted previously, the impact on water 
>>supply will be felt in Moscow, not Whitman County.
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>At 6:06 AM -0800 1/15/07, g. crabtree wrote:
>>>Could you explain how one 60,000 sq. ft. retail development is 
>>>more destructive to the environment than 30-2000 sq. ft. 
>>>businesses would be? Why do you think that they would use more 
>>>water? Particularly if they are capturing rain water for their 
>>>landscaping needs?
>>>
>>>As to your contention about traffic, I'm sure that people who live 
>>>within walking distance of a "big box" will. Just the same as with 
>>>the coffee shops (you don't imagine that all the folks sipping 
>>>their mochachinno grandes at the various downtown bistros walked 
>>>there, do you?)
>>>
>>>Coffee shops, restaurants, and other small enterprises are great 
>>>but they shouldn't exclude larger development.
>>>
>>>g
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "keely emerinemix" <<mailto:kjajmix1 at msn.com>kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>>>To: <<mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com>
>>>Cc: <<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:18 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>>
>>>  > You don't sound bitter, just concerned -- and maybe confused 
>>>about what our
>>>>  concerns are.  Coffee shops (and yes, there are a lot) don't impact the
>>>>  environment, particularly the water supply, in the same way that 
>>>>huge retail
>>>>  complexes do.  The coffee shops downtown allow for a great deal of foot
>>>>  traffic, whereas not many people will walk to the big boxes.  And while I
>>>>  strongly supported the construction of a new high school out on the Trail
>>>>  property northeast of town, it was because of the enormous benefit to the
>>>>  community, a benefit that I don't see from out-of-town retail behemoths.
>>>>
>>>>  But welcome to the fray!
>>>>
>>>>  keely
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  From: <mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com
>>>>  To: <mailto:kjajmix1 at msn.com>kjajmix1 at msn.com
>>>>  CC: <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>>>  Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:51:37 -0500
>>>>
>>>>  Keely,
>>>>
>>>>  If Moscow suffers economically from the impact, then it should fall on the
>>>>  shoulders of the city council.  They are the ones that do not want the new
>>>>  business'.  And besides, Whitman County is being smart.....they 
>>>>want to grow
>>>>  with the times and they realize that by bringing these retail 
>>>>shops in, they
>>>>  are not only keeping business local, they would have more jobs for their
>>>>  community, etc.  Oh yeah, but did I mention that Moscow hasn't 
>>>>kept out the
>>>>  coffee shops?  If I seem "bitter", it is because I would like to 
>>>>see Moscow
>>>>  grow as I live here and I believe in my city and I shop locally.  But when
>>>>  you can go down main street and there are 8 places within a block that are
>>>>  either coffee shops or they are restaurants that sell coffees, ie mocha's,
>>>>  lattee's, etc., it gets to be a bit much.
>>>>
>>>>  Anita :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>  From: <mailto:kjajmix1 at msn.com>kjajmix1 at msn.com
>>>>  To: <mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com; 
>>>><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>  > Sent: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 8:18 PM
>>>>  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I think, smiling Anita, that a lot of folks believe that Moscow 
>>>>would suffer
>>>>  from the impact of a huge strip mall between here and Pullman. The state
>>>>  line separates jurisdictions; it doesn't eliminate threats or 
>>>>risks from out
>>>>  of state.
>>>>
>>>>  keely
>>>>
>>>>  From: <mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com
>>>>  To: <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>  Subject: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>>>  Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:33:13 -0500
>>>>
>>>>  I feel that Kai has made a very valid point. To some the hand 
>>>>shake may seam
>>>>  trivial, but I was always taught that making a good first 
>>>>impression is very
>>>>  important. The politicians know when they step into the 
>>>>political arena that
>>>>  they will be embarking on a long grueling journey with long 
>>>>hours, bad food,
>>>>  and even bad breathe for that matter. To make excuses as to why 
>>>>Brady had a
>>>>  limp hand shake is simply that....an excuse. I have a hard time with
>>>>  politicians in general because I simply do not believe a word 
>>>>they say. For
>>>>  example, tell me how many of the fine City of Moscow city council members
>>>>  are acting on what they promised in their campaigns? They were 
>>>>going to make
>>>>  Moscow even better. What, with a another coffee shop downtown? 
>>>>Maybe instead
>>>>  of Mayor Chaney and the Moscow City Council sticking their noses in the
>>>>  happenings of events going on accross the border in Washington, 
>>>>perhaps they
>>>>  should keep their vision on what is better for Moscow and go back to what!
>>>>    they promised us, the voters during their campaigning :)
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