[Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
Mark Solomon
msolomon at moscow.com
Tue Jan 16 17:20:49 PST 2007
Matt,
I don't. I'd suggest directing inquiries to Les Macdonald, City
Public Works Director.
lmacdonald at ci.moscow.id.us
m.
At 4:34 PM -0800 1/16/07, Matt Decker wrote:
>Mark,
>
>You said in one of your last posts that the city is paying 50K for a
>survey. Do you know what this might include?
>
>Thanks
>Matt
>
>>From: Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com>
>>To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>, "keely emerinemix"
>><kjajmix1 at msn.com>, <anitasonriente at aol.com>
>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:00:26 -0800
>>
>>Hi Gary,
>>
>>While certainly not a statistically valid survey, I offer this
>>observation as someone who is out at Winco shopping for my wife's
>>restaurant at least three days a week: I have yet to see someone
>>walking to the store or walking away with a grocery bag even though
>>there are all those new/newish student apartment blocks within 200
>>yards.
>>
>>And that's 600,000 square foot for the proposed Hawkins
>>development, if that was what you were referring to. For comparison
>>in size that would be about 15 acres under roof or six of the
>>current WalMarts or three East City Parks. I applaud the
>>developers proposal to use rainwater collection/treated effluent
>>for outdoor landscape irrigation, but that still leaves their
>>estimated 40 acre foot per year that has to be pumped (about 12.6
>>million gallons). As I've posted previously, the impact on water
>>supply will be felt in Moscow, not Whitman County.
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>At 6:06 AM -0800 1/15/07, g. crabtree wrote:
>>>Could you explain how one 60,000 sq. ft. retail development is
>>>more destructive to the environment than 30-2000 sq. ft.
>>>businesses would be? Why do you think that they would use more
>>>water? Particularly if they are capturing rain water for their
>>>landscaping needs?
>>>
>>>As to your contention about traffic, I'm sure that people who live
>>>within walking distance of a "big box" will. Just the same as with
>>>the coffee shops (you don't imagine that all the folks sipping
>>>their mochachinno grandes at the various downtown bistros walked
>>>there, do you?)
>>>
>>>Coffee shops, restaurants, and other small enterprises are great
>>>but they shouldn't exclude larger development.
>>>
>>>g
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "keely emerinemix" <<mailto:kjajmix1 at msn.com>kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>>>To: <<mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com>
>>>Cc: <<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:18 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>>
>>> > You don't sound bitter, just concerned -- and maybe confused
>>>about what our
>>>> concerns are. Coffee shops (and yes, there are a lot) don't impact the
>>>> environment, particularly the water supply, in the same way that
>>>>huge retail
>>>> complexes do. The coffee shops downtown allow for a great deal of foot
>>>> traffic, whereas not many people will walk to the big boxes. And while I
>>>> strongly supported the construction of a new high school out on the Trail
>>>> property northeast of town, it was because of the enormous benefit to the
>>>> community, a benefit that I don't see from out-of-town retail behemoths.
>>>>
>>>> But welcome to the fray!
>>>>
>>>> keely
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: <mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com
>>>> To: <mailto:kjajmix1 at msn.com>kjajmix1 at msn.com
>>>> CC: <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>>> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:51:37 -0500
>>>>
>>>> Keely,
>>>>
>>>> If Moscow suffers economically from the impact, then it should fall on the
>>>> shoulders of the city council. They are the ones that do not want the new
>>>> business'. And besides, Whitman County is being smart.....they
>>>>want to grow
>>>> with the times and they realize that by bringing these retail
>>>>shops in, they
>>>> are not only keeping business local, they would have more jobs for their
>>>> community, etc. Oh yeah, but did I mention that Moscow hasn't
>>>>kept out the
>>>> coffee shops? If I seem "bitter", it is because I would like to
>>>>see Moscow
>>>> grow as I live here and I believe in my city and I shop locally. But when
>>>> you can go down main street and there are 8 places within a block that are
>>>> either coffee shops or they are restaurants that sell coffees, ie mocha's,
>>>> lattee's, etc., it gets to be a bit much.
>>>>
>>>> Anita :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: <mailto:kjajmix1 at msn.com>kjajmix1 at msn.com
>>>> To: <mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com;
>>>><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> > Sent: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 8:18 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think, smiling Anita, that a lot of folks believe that Moscow
>>>>would suffer
>>>> from the impact of a huge strip mall between here and Pullman. The state
>>>> line separates jurisdictions; it doesn't eliminate threats or
>>>>risks from out
>>>> of state.
>>>>
>>>> keely
>>>>
>>>> From: <mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com
>>>> To: <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>>> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:33:13 -0500
>>>>
>>>> I feel that Kai has made a very valid point. To some the hand
>>>>shake may seam
>>>> trivial, but I was always taught that making a good first
>>>>impression is very
>>>> important. The politicians know when they step into the
>>>>political arena that
>>>> they will be embarking on a long grueling journey with long
>>>>hours, bad food,
>>>> and even bad breathe for that matter. To make excuses as to why
>>>>Brady had a
>>>> limp hand shake is simply that....an excuse. I have a hard time with
>>>> politicians in general because I simply do not believe a word
>>>>they say. For
>>>> example, tell me how many of the fine City of Moscow city council members
>>>> are acting on what they promised in their campaigns? They were
>>>>going to make
>>>> Moscow even better. What, with a another coffee shop downtown?
>>>>Maybe instead
>>>> of Mayor Chaney and the Moscow City Council sticking their noses in the
>>>> happenings of events going on accross the border in Washington,
>>>>perhaps they
>>>> should keep their vision on what is better for Moscow and go back to what!
>>>> they promised us, the voters during their campaigning :)
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