[Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......

Matt Decker mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Tue Jan 16 16:34:59 PST 2007


Mark,

You said in one of your last posts that the city is paying 50K for a survey. 
Do you know what this might include?

Thanks
Matt


>From: Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com>
>To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>, "keely emerinemix" 
><kjajmix1 at msn.com>,        <anitasonriente at aol.com>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 09:00:26 -0800
>
>Hi Gary,
>
>While certainly not a statistically valid survey, I offer this observation 
>as someone who is out at Winco shopping for my wife's restaurant at least 
>three days a week: I have yet to see someone walking to the store or 
>walking away with a grocery bag even though there are all those new/newish 
>student apartment blocks within 200 yards.
>
>And that's 600,000 square foot for the proposed Hawkins development, if 
>that was what you were referring to. For comparison in size that would be 
>about 15 acres under roof or six of the current WalMarts  or three East 
>City Parks. I applaud the developers proposal to use rainwater 
>collection/treated effluent for outdoor landscape irrigation, but that 
>still leaves their estimated 40 acre foot per year that has to be pumped 
>(about 12.6 million gallons). As I've posted previously, the impact on 
>water supply will be felt in Moscow, not Whitman County.
>
>Mark
>
>At 6:06 AM -0800 1/15/07, g. crabtree wrote:
>>Could you explain how one 60,000 sq. ft. retail development is more 
>>destructive to the environment than 30-2000 sq. ft. businesses would be? 
>>Why do you think that they would use more water? Particularly if they are 
>>capturing rain water for their landscaping needs?
>>
>>As to your contention about traffic, I'm sure that people who live within 
>>walking distance of a "big box" will. Just the same as with the coffee 
>>shops (you don't imagine that all the folks sipping their mochachinno 
>>grandes at the various downtown bistros walked there, do you?)
>>
>>Coffee shops, restaurants, and other small enterprises are great but they 
>>shouldn't exclude larger development.
>>
>>g
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "keely emerinemix" <<mailto:kjajmix1 at msn.com>kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>>To: <<mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com>
>>Cc: <<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:18 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>
>>  > You don't sound bitter, just concerned -- and maybe confused about 
>>what our
>>>  concerns are.  Coffee shops (and yes, there are a lot) don't impact the
>>>  environment, particularly the water supply, in the same way that huge 
>>>retail
>>>  complexes do.  The coffee shops downtown allow for a great deal of foot
>>>  traffic, whereas not many people will walk to the big boxes.  And while 
>>>I
>>>  strongly supported the construction of a new high school out on the 
>>>Trail
>>>  property northeast of town, it was because of the enormous benefit to 
>>>the
>>>  community, a benefit that I don't see from out-of-town retail 
>>>behemoths.
>>>
>>>  But welcome to the fray!
>>>
>>>  keely
>>>
>>>
>>>  From: <mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com
>>>  To: <mailto:kjajmix1 at msn.com>kjajmix1 at msn.com
>>>  CC: <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>>  Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:51:37 -0500
>>>
>>>  Keely,
>>>
>>>  If Moscow suffers economically from the impact, then it should fall on 
>>>the
>>>  shoulders of the city council.  They are the ones that do not want the 
>>>new
>>>  business'.  And besides, Whitman County is being smart.....they want to 
>>>grow
>>>  with the times and they realize that by bringing these retail shops in, 
>>>they
>>>  are not only keeping business local, they would have more jobs for 
>>>their
>>>  community, etc.  Oh yeah, but did I mention that Moscow hasn't kept out 
>>>the
>>>  coffee shops?  If I seem "bitter", it is because I would like to see 
>>>Moscow
>>>  grow as I live here and I believe in my city and I shop locally.  But 
>>>when
>>>  you can go down main street and there are 8 places within a block that 
>>>are
>>>  either coffee shops or they are restaurants that sell coffees, ie 
>>>mocha's,
>>>  lattee's, etc., it gets to be a bit much.
>>>
>>>  Anita :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: <mailto:kjajmix1 at msn.com>kjajmix1 at msn.com
>>>  To: <mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com; 
>>><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>  > Sent: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 8:18 PM
>>>  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>>
>>>
>>>  I think, smiling Anita, that a lot of folks believe that Moscow would 
>>>suffer
>>>  from the impact of a huge strip mall between here and Pullman. The 
>>>state
>>>  line separates jurisdictions; it doesn't eliminate threats or risks 
>>>from out
>>>  of state.
>>>
>>>  keely
>>>
>>>  From: <mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com
>>>  To: <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>  Subject: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>>  Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:33:13 -0500
>>>
>>>  I feel that Kai has made a very valid point. To some the hand shake may 
>>>seam
>>>  trivial, but I was always taught that making a good first impression is 
>>>very
>>>  important. The politicians know when they step into the political arena 
>>>that
>>>  they will be embarking on a long grueling journey with long hours, bad 
>>>food,
>>>  and even bad breathe for that matter. To make excuses as to why Brady 
>>>had a
>>>  limp hand shake is simply that....an excuse. I have a hard time with
>>>  politicians in general because I simply do not believe a word they say. 
>>>For
>>>  example, tell me how many of the fine City of Moscow city council 
>>>members
>>>  are acting on what they promised in their campaigns? They were going to 
>>>make
>>>  Moscow even better. What, with a another coffee shop downtown? Maybe 
>>>instead
>>>  of Mayor Chaney and the Moscow City Council sticking their noses in the
>>>  happenings of events going on accross the border in Washington, perhaps 
>>>they
>>>  should keep their vision on what is better for Moscow and go back to 
>>>what!
>>>    they promised us, the voters during their campaigning :)
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