[Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
Mark Solomon
msolomon at moscow.com
Mon Jan 15 09:00:26 PST 2007
Hi Gary,
While certainly not a statistically valid survey, I offer this
observation as someone who is out at Winco shopping for my wife's
restaurant at least three days a week: I have yet to see someone
walking to the store or walking away with a grocery bag even though
there are all those new/newish student apartment blocks within 200
yards.
And that's 600,000 square foot for the proposed Hawkins development,
if that was what you were referring to. For comparison in size that
would be about 15 acres under roof or six of the current WalMarts or
three East City Parks. I applaud the developers proposal to use
rainwater collection/treated effluent for outdoor landscape
irrigation, but that still leaves their estimated 40 acre foot per
year that has to be pumped (about 12.6 million gallons). As I've
posted previously, the impact on water supply will be felt in Moscow,
not Whitman County.
Mark
At 6:06 AM -0800 1/15/07, g. crabtree wrote:
>Could you explain how one 60,000 sq. ft. retail development is more
>destructive to the environment than 30-2000 sq. ft. businesses would
>be? Why do you think that they would use more water? Particularly if
>they are capturing rain water for their landscaping needs?
>
>As to your contention about traffic, I'm sure that people who live
>within walking distance of a "big box" will. Just the same as with
>the coffee shops (you don't imagine that all the folks sipping their
>mochachinno grandes at the various downtown bistros walked there, do
>you?)
>
>Coffee shops, restaurants, and other small enterprises are great but
>they shouldn't exclude larger development.
>
>g
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "keely emerinemix" <<mailto:kjajmix1 at msn.com>kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>To: <<mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com>
>Cc: <<mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>
> > You don't sound bitter, just concerned -- and maybe confused about what our
>> concerns are. Coffee shops (and yes, there are a lot) don't impact the
>> environment, particularly the water supply, in the same way that huge retail
>> complexes do. The coffee shops downtown allow for a great deal of foot
>> traffic, whereas not many people will walk to the big boxes. And while I
>> strongly supported the construction of a new high school out on the Trail
>> property northeast of town, it was because of the enormous benefit to the
>> community, a benefit that I don't see from out-of-town retail behemoths.
>>
>> But welcome to the fray!
>>
>> keely
>>
>>
>> From: <mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com
>> To: <mailto:kjajmix1 at msn.com>kjajmix1 at msn.com
>> CC: <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:51:37 -0500
>>
>> Keely,
>>
>> If Moscow suffers economically from the impact, then it should fall on the
>> shoulders of the city council. They are the ones that do not want the new
>> business'. And besides, Whitman County is being smart.....they want to grow
>> with the times and they realize that by bringing these retail shops in, they
>> are not only keeping business local, they would have more jobs for their
>> community, etc. Oh yeah, but did I mention that Moscow hasn't kept out the
>> coffee shops? If I seem "bitter", it is because I would like to see Moscow
>> grow as I live here and I believe in my city and I shop locally. But when
>> you can go down main street and there are 8 places within a block that are
>> either coffee shops or they are restaurants that sell coffees, ie mocha's,
>> lattee's, etc., it gets to be a bit much.
>>
>> Anita :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: <mailto:kjajmix1 at msn.com>kjajmix1 at msn.com
>> To: <mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com;
>><mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Sent: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 8:18 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>>
>>
>> I think, smiling Anita, that a lot of folks believe that Moscow would suffer
>> from the impact of a huge strip mall between here and Pullman. The state
>> line separates jurisdictions; it doesn't eliminate threats or risks from out
>> of state.
>>
>> keely
>>
>> From: <mailto:anitasonriente at aol.com>anitasonriente at aol.com
>> To: <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Why I didn't vote for Brady......
>> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 22:33:13 -0500
>>
>> I feel that Kai has made a very valid point. To some the hand shake may seam
>> trivial, but I was always taught that making a good first impression is very
>> important. The politicians know when they step into the political arena that
>> they will be embarking on a long grueling journey with long hours, bad food,
>> and even bad breathe for that matter. To make excuses as to why Brady had a
>> limp hand shake is simply that....an excuse. I have a hard time with
>> politicians in general because I simply do not believe a word they say. For
>> example, tell me how many of the fine City of Moscow city council members
>> are acting on what they promised in their campaigns? They were going to make
>> Moscow even better. What, with a another coffee shop downtown? Maybe instead
>> of Mayor Chaney and the Moscow City Council sticking their noses in the
>> happenings of events going on accross the border in Washington, perhaps they
>> should keep their vision on what is better for Moscow and go back to what!
>> they promised us, the voters during their campaigning :)
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