[Vision2020] lawyers
Tony
tonytime at clearwire.net
Tue Jan 9 17:26:36 PST 2007
Sue, you mentioned those in a position of trust who prey on underlings - a
classic example of such would be Clinton / Lewinski. If the mention of an
abusive dynamic reminds folks of your favorite icon, that would not be our
fault.
Best, -T
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
To: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] lawyers
> Tony, you are so welcome. Could it be true that any mention of any
> subject reminds you of Bill Clinton? Chocolate cake, rain,
> podiatrists--any of those subjects grab you?
>
> Sue
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
> To: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] lawyers
>
>
>> Sue, I found your comments regarding professionalism to be most
>> refreshing. I agree that Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter exemplify the very
>> best in their profession. Also, where you pointed out that some in a
>> position of trust abuse that trust by preying on young people, I was
>> reminded once again of Bill Clinton and his predatory behavior toward
>> woman who functioned under him.
>>
>> Thanks again for your astute observations.
>>
>> Best, -T
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
>> To: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>; <fotopro63 at hotmail.com>;
>> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 7:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] lawyers
>>
>>
>>> Good for you, Keely. My nephew is an environmental lawyer in Seattle.
>>> I am
>>> so proud of him and his accomplishments. Just this month he was
>>> featured on
>>> the cover of a Seattle magazine as one of the significant persons in
>>> that
>>> city whose good deeds are worthy of celebration. There are scuzzy
>>> lawyers,
>>> yes; as there are persons in all fields who are not representative of
>>> the
>>> best of the profession. In the field of communications I would mention
>>> Rush
>>> Limbaugh and Ann Coulter. In the ministry and even in my own teaching
>>> profession all those in positions of trust who prey on young people. No
>>> profession has a corner on the market when it comes to unethical and
>>> unprofessional practitioners. Were it possible to purge the ranks of
>>> all of
>>> them that would be a cause to celebrate. Perhaps one way to begin to
>>> do
>>> that is for those who malign other professions to examine their own as
>>> well.
>>>>From my own perspective I feel Kai might even start in his own
>>>>workplace.
>>>
>>> Sue Hovey
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>>> To: <fotopro63 at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] lawyers
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm getting tired of all of the lawyer-bashing here.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, sometimes bad lawyers do reprehensible things. Welcome to a
>>>> fallen
>>>> world; there isn't a profession in it whose practitioners are all pure
>>>> and
>>>> free from temptations of greed and power. But I'm astonished at how
>>>> easily
>>>> people who enjoy freedom and a secure social order blast an entire
>>>> profession whose efforts safeguard what they hold dear, and then
>>>> presume
>>>> to
>>>> run to them when their rights are trampled on. We all benefit from
>>>> the
>>>> highest ideals of the law, and most of us have not suffered directly
>>>> from
>>>> the bad behavior of some in the profession. On the contrary. We're
>>>> better
>>>> off because of law and the lawyers who study, administer, and guide us
>>>> through it.
>>>>
>>>> It occurs to me that it is the provence of the secure and relatively
>>>> affluent -- I might say "privileged" -- to malign lawyers. Try seeing
>>>> through the eyes of the disenfranchised, the victimized, the poor, and
>>>> the
>>>> voiceless, for whom the long arm of a vicious society constantly
>>>> reaches.
>>>> In Spanish, the word for lawyer, "abogado," is similar to "advocate."
>>>> In
>>>> my
>>>> work with Mexican immigrants, I saw many examples of injustice, and I
>>>> saw
>>>> a
>>>> few times when righteousness and justice were accomplished through
>>>> lawyers
>>>> -- advocates for those without one. I thank God for those women and
>>>> men
>>>> who
>>>> safeguard the freedoms of both the most privileged and the least of
>>>> those
>>>> among us. Respect for the professions compels me to lament the bad
>>>> ones,
>>>> but it also requires that I extend my gratitude to the good ones who I
>>>> know
>>>> are the majority.
>>>>
>>>> keely
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: "Kai Eiselein" <fotopro63 at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Health Care
>>>> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 04:55:23 +0000
>>>>
>>>> I notice that Nick left out a critcal element in the health care issue:
>>>> LAWYERS.
>>>> How much of the high cost is a direct result of sleazy litigators and
>>>> their
>>>> often frivolous lawsuits, which result in higher malpractice insurance
>>>> costs, which are then passed on to consumers?
>>>> One of the hardest hit areas in medicine is in the OB specialty and
>>>> many
>>>> highly qualified practitioners are leaving it because of outrageous
>>>> insurance costs.
>>>> When are people going to learn that doctors are not miracle workers,
>>>> people
>>>> die. Things don't always work out as planned or hoped, an unforseen
>>>> complication here an alergic reaction there and, suddenly, a greezy
>>>> shyster
>>>> shows up and says its worth millions.
>>>> This isn't to say that doctors shouldn't be held accountable for their
>>>> mistakes, they should, but there are things out of their control as
>>>> well.
>>>> Get the scuzzball attorneys under control first, then see what happens.
>>>> But
>>>> we know that won't happen with the number of sharks we've elected to
>>>> national office. They'll protect their own.
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