[Vision2020] lawyers
Sue Hovey
suehovey at moscow.com
Tue Jan 9 11:17:30 PST 2007
Kai,
My apologies, I have never found anyone working for the Latah Eagle to be a
scuzzball. This past election season, I was disappointed that I was talked
into a spur of the moment ad because someone else had reserved space and
hadn't turned in the copy, so I said ok, paid for it and then it wasn't
printed that week. I did, however, receive a credit on the next week's ad
which was not nearly as well done as the one of two year's before. I did
not get a chance to proof it and the excuse was that it was emailed to me
and I didn't get back in time. I did not receive the email and when I went
in to check, it had already been done and I was too late. I inferred from
what was told me that someone wasn't being quite truthful and was simply
passing the buck--again. I was disappointed, but not nearly ready to define
anyone by the terms set out in your denigration of the law profession. A
tad dishonest perhaps, trying to save ones own skin perhaps, somewhat lax in
publication protocol, but never, never scuzzy. So I do apologize again for
my hyperbole.
Sue
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kai Eiselein, editor" <editor at lataheagle.com>
To: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>; "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] lawyers
> I'm curious, Sue, who in my own workplace do you believe to be a
> scuzzball?
> Does the media get it wrong? Ubetcha, look at the NY Times and the
> Altantic
> Monthy as two examples. I haven't trusted anything the Times has printed
> for
> at least 10 years. The get it wrong far too often.
> Last night on NBC News, the warm temperatures back east were a big story.
> They had a guy NOAA on, who said it was from El Nino and not global
> warming.
> They offered aup a person who gave a different view saying it was global
> warming at work. My problem? NBC News flashed a bunch of stills of C02
> emitting things; Cars, trucks, industrial plants, a nuclearpower
> plant....... HUH? nuke plants emit CO2?
> On the Today Show this morning, Senator Ted, "Chappaquiddick" Kennedy said
> he would introduce legislation to cut funding for the Iraq war. He said it
> had been done before, with Lebanon and Viet Nam. What he didn't mention
> about Viet Nam is that it was at the end of the war when the US was
> beginning its pull out. (The subject came up the NPR's Diane Rehm Show
> yesterday, or else it would have slipped past me, too.) Did he lie? No. He
> took a truth and twisted it to fit.
> I may not always agree with NPR's take and/or slant on things, but they
> tend
> to get their facts right more often than not.
> Don't even get me started on Katie Couric.....
> One final note from me on nationalized health care. So, how do you think
> the
> feds are doing with control of our education system? Yup, No Child Left
> Behind sure is popular, isn't it? Working pretty darn well, after all,
> some
> civil servant in D.C. sure knows what's needed in Idaho, and probably
> thinks
> Idaho is a mis-spelling of Iowa.
> I find it really ironic that many members of the generation that prided
> itself on its mistrust of goverment now wants to place responsibilty for
> it's healthcare choices squarely in the hands of those they distrustred in
> the 60's and 70's.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On Behalf Of Tony
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:12 AM
> To: Sue Hovey
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] lawyers
>
>
> Sue, I found your comments regarding professionalism to be most
> refreshing.
> I agree that Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter exemplify the very best in
> their
> profession. Also, where you pointed out that some in a position of trust
> abuse that trust by preying on young people, I was reminded once again of
> Bill Clinton and his predatory behavior toward woman who functioned under
> him.
>
> Thanks again for your astute observations.
>
> Best, -T
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
> To: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>; <fotopro63 at hotmail.com>;
> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] lawyers
>
>
>> Good for you, Keely. My nephew is an environmental lawyer in Seattle. I
>> am
>> so proud of him and his accomplishments. Just this month he was featured
>> on
>> the cover of a Seattle magazine as one of the significant persons in that
>> city whose good deeds are worthy of celebration. There are scuzzy
>> lawyers,
>> yes; as there are persons in all fields who are not representative of the
>> best of the profession. In the field of communications I would mention
>> Rush
>> Limbaugh and Ann Coulter. In the ministry and even in my own teaching
>> profession all those in positions of trust who prey on young people. No
>> profession has a corner on the market when it comes to unethical and
>> unprofessional practitioners. Were it possible to purge the ranks of all
>> of
>> them that would be a cause to celebrate. Perhaps one way to begin to
>> do
>> that is for those who malign other professions to examine their own as
>> well.
>>>From my own perspective I feel Kai might even start in his own workplace.
>>
>> Sue Hovey
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>> To: <fotopro63 at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 11:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] lawyers
>>
>>
>>> I'm getting tired of all of the lawyer-bashing here.
>>>
>>> Yeah, sometimes bad lawyers do reprehensible things. Welcome to a
>>> fallen
>>> world; there isn't a profession in it whose practitioners are all pure
>>> and
>>> free from temptations of greed and power. But I'm astonished at how
>>> easily
>>> people who enjoy freedom and a secure social order blast an entire
>>> profession whose efforts safeguard what they hold dear, and then presume
>>> to
>>> run to them when their rights are trampled on. We all benefit from the
>>> highest ideals of the law, and most of us have not suffered directly
>>> from
>>> the bad behavior of some in the profession. On the contrary. We're
>>> better
>>> off because of law and the lawyers who study, administer, and guide us
>>> through it.
>>>
>>> It occurs to me that it is the provence of the secure and relatively
>>> affluent -- I might say "privileged" -- to malign lawyers. Try seeing
>>> through the eyes of the disenfranchised, the victimized, the poor, and
>>> the
>>> voiceless, for whom the long arm of a vicious society constantly
>>> reaches.
>>> In Spanish, the word for lawyer, "abogado," is similar to "advocate."
>>> In
>>> my
>>> work with Mexican immigrants, I saw many examples of injustice, and I
>>> saw
>>> a
>>> few times when righteousness and justice were accomplished through
>>> lawyers
>>> -- advocates for those without one. I thank God for those women and men
>>> who
>>> safeguard the freedoms of both the most privileged and the least of
>>> those
>>> among us. Respect for the professions compels me to lament the bad
>>> ones,
>>> but it also requires that I extend my gratitude to the good ones who I
>>> know
>>> are the majority.
>>>
>>> keely
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "Kai Eiselein" <fotopro63 at hotmail.com>
>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Health Care
>>> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 04:55:23 +0000
>>>
>>> I notice that Nick left out a critcal element in the health care issue:
>>> LAWYERS.
>>> How much of the high cost is a direct result of sleazy litigators and
>>> their
>>> often frivolous lawsuits, which result in higher malpractice insurance
>>> costs, which are then passed on to consumers?
>>> One of the hardest hit areas in medicine is in the OB specialty and many
>>> highly qualified practitioners are leaving it because of outrageous
>>> insurance costs.
>>> When are people going to learn that doctors are not miracle workers,
>>> people
>>> die. Things don't always work out as planned or hoped, an unforseen
>>> complication here an alergic reaction there and, suddenly, a greezy
>>> shyster
>>> shows up and says its worth millions.
>>> This isn't to say that doctors shouldn't be held accountable for their
>>> mistakes, they should, but there are things out of their control as
>>> well.
>>> Get the scuzzball attorneys under control first, then see what happens.
>>> But
>>> we know that won't happen with the number of sharks we've elected to
>>> national office. They'll protect their own.
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