[Vision2020] Fw: And so it begins!!
Tony
tonytime at clearwire.net
Fri Jan 5 20:09:55 PST 2007
J, thank you for your gracious response. I would prefer the form of dialog
you advocate.
Best, -T
----- Original Message -----
From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: And so it begins!!
> D***n, that was actually very articulate and readable. Thank you.
>
> While I don't wholey agree, I do UNDERSTAND your stand. I'm just asking
> that you keep your comments this calm and don't sink to the level of two
> teen boys, toe-to-toe, spitting at each other. I'd be more interested in
> this kinda discussion than the other.
>
> Again, thank you for stating this so clearly and calmly.
>
> J :]
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>>To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: And so it begins!!
>>Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 17:04:25 -0800
>>
>>J, I find Chuck's impertinent ad hominum tactics as unpleasant as having
>>to
>>respond to them. Unfortunately, there is a strain of malingering vets who
>>attempt to dismiss any support of our troops by non vets as "chickenhawk"
>>phoniness. The ignorance of such a position is obvious. It would be on a
>>par with a law enforcement officer or firefighter condemning a civilian
>>who
>>had voiced support for them, saying, how can you dare take such a position
>>having never served as a police officer or firefighter yourself? (bear in
>>mind that such careers carry at least as great a statistical risk of
>>injury
>>or death as one in the military.) Clearly it does not automatically
>>follow
>>that public support of those in such careers constitutes cowardice. Such
>>a
>>charge is of course emotionally satisfying to those who are intellectually
>>unable to respond to such support as publicly articulated.
>>
>>Later, -T
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:15 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: And so it begins!!
>>
>>
>> > Jeez, guys - quit with the kicking up of the sand...you're getting it
>> > in
>> > everyone's eyes, not just yours.
>> >
>> > Sheesh; if ANYthing were in need of being taken somewhere else - this
>> > be
>> > it!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > J :]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>> >>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: And so it begins!!
>> >>Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 09:13:24 -0800
>> >>
>> >>What a bold scary Tiger you are! But so predictable.
>> >>
>> >>Sunil
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>> >> >To: "Chuck Kovis" <ckovis at turbonet.com>
>> >> >CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: And so it begins!!
>> >> >Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:16:51 -0800
>> >> >
>> >> >Oh Chuck, you are in another snit, aren't you? I am under no
>>obligation
>> >>to
>> >> >prove a damn thing to you, you pompous prick. We established your
>> >>penchant
>> >> >for challenging the courage of others last fall, did we not? You
>>revel
>> >>in
>> >> >challenging them and then shrink back from confrontation when your
>>bluff
>> >>is
>> >> >called. I am quite prepared to respond unpredictably and decisively
>>to
>> >>an
>> >> >assault by you or any other tyrant. If you are such a brave tough
>> >> >guy
>> >> >Chucko, why don't you test your theory about my lack of guts and look
>>me
>> >>up
>> >> >and get in my face sometime? Afraid you might face at least as great
>>a
>> >> >risk
>> >> >of maiming as that faced by the average military enlistee? Yep, just
>>as
>> >>I
>> >> >thought, it is you who are the chickenshit.
>> >> >
>> >> >Now go kiss my ass. -TONY----- Original Message -----
>> >> >From: "Chuck Kovis" <ckovis at turbonet.com>
>> >> >To: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>> >> >Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:30 AM
>> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: And so it begins!!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > Tony, I'm not ticked that I served my country. I'd do it it a
>> >>heartbeat.
>> >> > > I'm ticked that people like you and Pat don't. I can't for the
>>life
>> >>of
>> >> >me
>> >> > > figure out why people like you and Pat who want to "bomb them back
>>to
>> >> >the
>> >> > > stone age" don't volunteer and fight the wars that you think
>>everyone
>> >> >else
>> >> > > should. Give me a good reason to believe that you are not a great
>> >> > > big
>> >> > > chickenshit. Chuck Kovis
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
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