[Vision2020] And so it begins!!
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 4 08:29:46 PST 2007
Bush (Sr and Jr) is a liar, Stevens is a liar, heck - they's all liars at
one time or another. Jeez, what's your problem outside of select blindness?
J :]
>From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And so it begins!!
>Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 17:36:20 -0800
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>Ah! But there was all that talk after the election of integrity,
>partisonship, working with each other, honesty etc etc. So now we know for
>sure...Pelosi is a liar!
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>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:18 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And so it begins!!
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>Yeah, right! Like the Republicans haven't and wouldn't do this!
>
>Get real...anytime one party or the other can get things done without the
>other - they do it. Simple fact of politics.
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>J :]
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> >From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
> >To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Subject: [Vision2020] And so it begins!!
> >Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 10:19:13 -0800
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> >Quick Passage of First Bills Sought
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> >By Lyndsey Layton and Juliet Eilperin
> >Washington Post Staff Writers
> >Tuesday, January 2, 2007; Page A01
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> >As they prepare to take control of Congress this week and face up to
> >campaign pledges to restore bipartisanship and openness, Democrats are
> >planning to largely sideline Republicans from the first burst of
>lawmaking.
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> >House Democrats intend to pass a raft of popular measures as part of
>their
> >well-publicized plan for the first 100 hours. They include tightening
> >ethics rules for lawmakers, raising the minimum wage, allowing more
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> >But instead of allowing Republicans to fully participate in
>deliberations,
> >as promised after the Democratic victory in the Nov. 7 midterm elections,
> >Democrats now say they will use House rules to prevent the opposition
>from
> >offering alternative measures, assuring speedy passage of the bills and
> >allowing their party to trumpet early victories.
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> >Nancy Pelosi, the Californian who will become House speaker, and Steny H.
> >Hoyer of Maryland, who will become majority leader, finalized the
>strategy
> >over the holiday recess in a flurry of conference calls and meetings with
> >other party leaders. A few Democrats, worried that the party would be
> >criticized for reneging on an important pledge, argued unsuccessfully
>that
> >they should grant the Republicans greater latitude when the Congress
> >convenes on Thursday.
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> >The episode illustrates the dilemma facing the new party in power. The
> >Democrats must demonstrate that they can break legislative gridlock and
> >govern after 12 years in the minority, while honoring their pledge to
>make
> >the 110th Congress a civil era in which Democrats and Republicans work
> >together to solve the nation's problems. Yet in attempting to pass laws
>key
> >to their prospects for winning reelection and expanding their majority,
>the
> >Democrats may have to resort to some of the same tough tactics
>Republicans
> >used the past several years.
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> >Democratic leaders say they are torn between giving Republicans a say in
> >legislation and shutting them out to prevent them from derailing
>Democratic
> >bills.
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> >"There is a going to be a tension there," said Rep. Chris Van Hollen
>(Md.),
> >the new chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. "My
> >sense is there's going to be a testing period to gauge to what extent the
> >Republicans want to join us in a constructive effort or whether they
>intend
> >to be disruptive. It's going to be a work in progress."
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> >House Republicans have begun to complain that Democrats are backing away
> >from their promise to work cooperatively. They are working on their own
> >strategy for the first 100 hours, and part of it is built on the idea
>that
> >they might be able to break the Democrats' slender majority by wooing
>away
> >some conservative Democrats.
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> >Democrats intend to introduce their first bills within hours of taking
>the
> >oath of office on Thursday. The first legislation will focus on the
> >behavior of lawmakers, banning travel on corporate jets and gifts from
> >lobbyists and requiring lawmakers to attach their names to special
>spending
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> >the lawmaker or the lawmaker's spouse. That bill is aimed at bringing
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> >rule.
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> >Democratic leaders said they are not going to allow Republican input into
> >the ethics package and other early legislation, because several of the
> >bills have already been debated and dissected, including the proposal to
> >raise the minimum wage, which passed the House Appropriations Committee
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> >the 109th Congress, said Brendan Daly, a spokesman for Pelosi.
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> >"We've talked about these things for more than a year," he said. "The
> >members and the public know what we're voting on. So in the first 100
> >hours, we're going to pass these bills."
> >
> >But because the details of the Democratic proposals have not been
>released,
> >some language could be new. Daly said Democrats are still committed to
> >sharing power with the minority down the line. "The test is not the first
> >100 hours," he said. "The test is the first six months or the first year.
> >We will do what we promised to do."
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