[Vision2020] Life after death?

[Ralph Nielsen]

Doug,

You are pitiful. You claim you believe in the Bible but you obviously  
do not. There is nothing about life after death in the Psalms, no  
matter how loud you sing them.

You dragged 2 verses out of context from Ezekiel, but they deal with  
deportees  returning to Jerusalem after the Exile. Again, absolutely  
nothing about life after death. Why do you bother quoting from the  
Bible if you don't believe what it says?

Get real, Doug. There isn't any life after death; there is only life  
before death. So make the most of it. Don't waste your time on  
escapist fantasies.

"Go, eat your bread with enjoyment, and drink your wine with a merry  
heart; for God has long ago approved what you do. ... Whatever your  
hand finds to do, do with your might; for there is no work or thought  
or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol, to which you are  
going" (Ecclesiastes 9:7,10).

Have a nice night, Doug.

Ralph


On Feb 26, 2007, at 5:48 PM, heirdoug at netscape.net wrote:

> Ralph,
>
> If you say that you believe what you say here, you really do have  
> NO hope for life after death.
>
> How very, very sad!
>
> I guess that those imprecatory Psalm songs have no effect on that  
> "exterior of stone" you have around your heart and shriveled soul.
>
> "I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them;  
> I will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart  
> of flesh." (Ezekiel 11:19)
>
> "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will  
> remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of  
> flesh." (Ezekiel 36:26)

Heirdoug

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nielsen at uidaho.edu
> To: heirdoug at netscape.net
>
> Sorry, Doug. Don't forget that "those who go down to Sheol do not  
> come up" (Job 7:9). And you don't have a "living spirit" that is  
> separate from your body. So you want to reside in heaven with your  
> creator? Have you forgotten what he said soon after the creation?
>
> Then the LORD God said, "See, the man has become like one of us,  
> knowing good and evil; and now, he might reach out his hand and  
> take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live  
> forever" (Genesis 3:22).
>
> So the LORD God drove the man out of the garden of Eden and placed  
> the cherubim with a flaming sword to guard the way to the tree of  
> life (vv. 23-24).
>
> So just get this into your little head, Doug. God doesn't want you  
> or anybody else to live forever with him in heaven. When you die  
> you will return to the dust from which you were made, your body  
> together with the operating system you like to call a "living  
> spirit." And the rest of God's creation will continue on its merry  
> way without you. Your dust, of course, will be recycled, but  
> eventually you will be forgotten, just as the Bible says. Read  
> Ecclesiastes 9:1-12. When did you stop believing it.
>
> Ralph
>
> On Feb 26, 2007, at 4:27 PM, heirdoug at netscape.net wrote:
>
>> Yes Ralph if you say so.
>>
>> But my hope is still in the resurrection of that dead body to be >
> rejoined with my living spirit that would be residing in the >  
> presence of the Creator of the Universe, the Savior you mentioned >  
> from Isaiah 43:11.
>>
>> So I will ask my question once again... When did you stop believing?
>>
>> Doug !
>>