[Vision2020] Life after death?

[heirdoug at netscape.net]

Ralph,

If you say that you believe what you say here, you really do have NO 
hope for life after death.

How very, very sad!

I guess that those imprecatory Psalm songs have no effect on that 
"exterior of stone" you have around your heart and shriveled soul.

"I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I 
will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of 
flesh." (Ezekiel 11:19)

"I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove 
 from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh." (Ezekiel 
36:26)








-----Original Message-----
From: nielsen at uidaho.edu
To: heirdoug at netscape.net
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 6:12 PM
Subject: Life after death?

Sorry, Doug. Don't forget that "those who go down to Sheol do not come 
up" (Job 7:9). And you don't have a "living spirit" that is separate 
 from your body. So you want to reside in heaven with your creator? Have 
you forgotten what he said soon after the creation?

Then the LORD God said, "See, the man has become like one of us, 
knowing good and evil; and now, he might reach out his hand and take 
also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever" (Genesis 3:22).

So the LORD God drove the man out of the garden of Eden and placed the 
cherubim with a flaming sword to guard the way to the tree of life (vv. 
23-24).

So just get this into your little head, Doug. God doesn't want you or 
anybody else to live forever with him in heaven. When you die you will 
return to the dust from which you were made, your body together with 
the operating system you like to call a "living spirit." And the rest 
of God's creation will continue on its merry way without you. Your 
dust, of course, will be recycled, but eventually you will be 
forgotten, just as the Bible says. Read Ecclesiastes 9:1-12. When did 
you stop believing it.

Ralph

On Feb 26, 2007, at 4:27 PM, heirdoug at netscape.net wrote:

> Yes Ralph if you say so.
>
> But my hope is still in the resurrection of that dead body to be > 
rejoined with my living spirit that would be residing in the > presence 
of the Creator of the Universe, the Savior you mentioned > from Isaiah 
43:11.
>
> So I will ask my question once again... When did you stop believing?
>
> Doug !
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nielsen at uidaho.edu
>
> You should be ashamed, Doug. You rip the Hebrew psalm completely > 
out of its context and write the silly drivel below. You are > 
certainly dodging the issue, aren't you?
>
> As for saviors, this was written hundreds of years before Xianity > 
was invented.
>
> "I, I am the LORD, and besides me there is no savior" (Isaiah 43:11).
>
> But however much you twist the Hebrew scriptures to make them say > 
what they do not say, you are still headed for Sheol when you die.
>
> Ralph
>
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