[Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
g. crabtree
jampot at adelphia.net
Wed Feb 14 19:18:05 PST 2007
To the best of my knowledge Mr. Wilson has never actively campaigned to prevent any legitimate enterprise from starting up in Moscow. It appears that he and his congregation vote after the fact with their shopping dollars, as is their right.
With regard to Wilson's "too numerous writings," when, as a mental exercise, I imagine you in one of the afore mentioned "positions of power" I wonder how anyone could possibly come to any other possible conclusion.
I fail to see even a glimmering of logic in your post.
g
----- Original Message -----
From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
>
> So someone disagreeing with business practices or with a business' lack of
> community care, are to be labeled "wackadoos" and "moonbats"? Who wrote
> that rule?
>
> Does that mean Doug is wackadoo" or a "moonbat" because he doesn't like the
> way some businesses allow women to be in charge or allows them to be on a
> board of that business? He has clearly stated in too-numerous of writings,
> that he feels businesses or organizations that allow women positions of
> power are businesses that are unmanly and should not be patronized.
>
> You said it; I'm just extending it logically.
>
>
> J :]
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>>To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>, "'Matt Decker'"
>><mattd2107 at hotmail.com>, <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>,
>><vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
>>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:34:32 -0800
>>
>>hansen opined:
>>
>>"I would need to know more (and hopefully so would the city council) about
>>the food co-op that you mention. What are its hiring practices? What is
>>the "track record" of that business? How else would the community benefit
>>from having that business located here in Moscow (other than lower
>>prices)?"
>>
>>The above statement does not reflect American free enterprise. The idea
>>that every idiot with an opinion should have a say in what a privately
>>owned business does before the fact is lunacy. The city should have a set
>>of clearly defined guidelines which are as non-restrictive as possible and
>>then get the heck out of the way. Moonbats and wackadoos can express their
>>opinion after the fact by spending their money with the enterprise or
>>staying away. The last time I checked, it was a businesses job to provide
>>goods or services and make a profit. Not to be some sort of social welfare
>>platform.
>>
>>g
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>>To: "'Matt Decker'" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>; <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>;
>><vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:58 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
>>
>>
>> > Mat Decker stated:
>> >
>> > "EX. lets say a 150 k sq ft food co-op wanted into town with 20-30%
>>lower
>> > prices. Do you really believe Moscow wouldn't support that? What about
>> > costco?"
>> >
>> > I would need to know more (and hopefully so would the city council)
>>about
>> > the food co-op that you mention. What are its hiring practices? What
>>is
>> > the "track record" of that business? How else would the community
>>benefit
>> > from having that business located here in Moscow (other than lower
>>prices)?
>> > Etc. Etc. Etc. . . . As far as Costco is concerned, I am unfamiliar
>>with
>> > their business practices.
>> >
>> > Tom Hansen
>> > Moscow, Idaho
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Matt Decker [mailto:mattd2107 at hotmail.com]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:47 PM
>> > To: thansen at moscow.com; privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
>> >
>> > Tom,
>> >
>> > I thought we did this already. Please call me Matt. Just as I hope I can
>> > call you Tom.
>> >
>> > Tom I don't really feel we need a super duper jumbo size walmart.
>>However, I
>> >
>> > think doing a big business ban is or can be hypocritical. EX. lets say a
>>150
>> >
>> > k sq ft food co-op wanted into town with 20-30% lower prices. Do you
>>really
>> > believe Moscow wouldn't support that? What about costco?
>> >
>> > Do I shop at wally world? Only when my wife makes me. I hate the place.
>>I
>> > think they sell shit, plaine and simple. They do serve a purpose though.
>>You
>> >
>> > and I both know those so I won't go into detail. Do I think they will
>>put a
>> > bunch of businesses out of business? NO.
>> >
>> > Plus getting 15% of their taxes is better then them going 1/4 mile
>>across
>> > the boarder, giving Wash the money.
>> >
>> > Matt
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>> >>To: "'Matt Decker'" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>, <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>,
>> >
>> >> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
>> >>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:30:40 -0800
>> >>
>> >>However, Mr. Decker, you yourself stated that by buying locally "more
>> >>importantly profits stay here". That is simply not the case with
>>Wal-mart.
>> >>
>> >>Tom Hansen
>> >>Moscow, Idaho
>> >>
>> >>"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
>>arriving
>> >>safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
>> >>sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly
>>used
>> >>up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: Matt Decker [mailto:mattd2107 at hotmail.com]
>> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:23 PM
>> >>To: thansen at moscow.com; privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
>> >>
>> >>Tom,
>> >>
>> >>LOL!!!!!!!!!
>> >>
>> >>Smart growth would be trying to get businesses into the community and
>>not
>> >>trying to push them away, along with our tax money.
>> >>
>> >>Matt
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>> >> >To: "'Matt Decker'" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>,
>><privatejf32 at hotmail.com>,
>> >>
>> >> > <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA
>>Issues
>> >> >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:19:01 -0800
>> >> >
>> >> >Matt Decker stated:
>> >> >
>> >> >"For example: every time they buy something from this community the
>> >>dollar
>> >> >stays here. Whether its businesses ran by other church members or if
>>it's
>> >> >my
>> >> >business, which I have at least 4 members that have purchased
>>sprinklers
>> >> >from be. I in turn spend by money locally thus keeping the money here.
>> >>Some
>> >> >taxes stay here but more importantly profits stay here."
>> >> >
>> >> >Sounds like a strong endorsement against Wal-Mart and in favor of
>>local
>> >> >businesses, Matt. Thanks. Those of us who support smart growth
>> >>appreciate
>> >> >your comments.
>> >> >
>> >> >Tom Hansen
>> >> >Moscow, idaho
>> >> >
>> >> >"If not us, who?
>> >> >If not now, when?"
>> >> >
>> >> >- Unknown
>> >> >
>> >> >
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