[Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Wed Feb 14 23:31:26 PST 2007
Well now, that is avoidance of a topic. Good going.
And yes he does campaign against businesses (remember the car wash?) He
certainly does in his sermons and writings.
J :]
>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:18:05 -0800
>
>
>To the best of my knowledge Mr. Wilson has never actively campaigned to
>prevent any legitimate enterprise from starting up in Moscow. It appears
>that he and his congregation vote after the fact with their shopping
>dollars, as is their right.
>
>With regard to Wilson's "too numerous writings," when, as a mental
>exercise, I imagine you in one of the afore mentioned "positions of power"
>I wonder how anyone could possibly come to any other possible conclusion.
>
>I fail to see even a glimmering of logic in your post.
>
>g
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
>
>
> >
> > So someone disagreeing with business practices or with a business' lack
>of
> > community care, are to be labeled "wackadoos" and "moonbats"? Who wrote
> > that rule?
> >
> > Does that mean Doug is wackadoo" or a "moonbat" because he doesn't like
>the
> > way some businesses allow women to be in charge or allows them to be on
>a
> > board of that business? He has clearly stated in too-numerous of
>writings,
> > that he feels businesses or organizations that allow women positions of
> > power are businesses that are unmanly and should not be patronized.
> >
> > You said it; I'm just extending it logically.
> >
> >
> > J :]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> >>To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>, "'Matt Decker'"
> >><mattd2107 at hotmail.com>, <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>,
> >><vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
> >>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:34:32 -0800
> >>
> >>hansen opined:
> >>
> >>"I would need to know more (and hopefully so would the city council)
>about
> >>the food co-op that you mention. What are its hiring practices? What
>is
> >>the "track record" of that business? How else would the community
>benefit
> >>from having that business located here in Moscow (other than lower
> >>prices)?"
> >>
> >>The above statement does not reflect American free enterprise. The idea
> >>that every idiot with an opinion should have a say in what a privately
> >>owned business does before the fact is lunacy. The city should have a
>set
> >>of clearly defined guidelines which are as non-restrictive as possible
>and
> >>then get the heck out of the way. Moonbats and wackadoos can express
>their
> >>opinion after the fact by spending their money with the enterprise or
> >>staying away. The last time I checked, it was a businesses job to
>provide
> >>goods or services and make a profit. Not to be some sort of social
>welfare
> >>platform.
> >>
> >>g
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> >>To: "'Matt Decker'" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>; <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>;
> >><vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:58 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA Issues
> >>
> >>
> >> > Mat Decker stated:
> >> >
> >> > "EX. lets say a 150 k sq ft food co-op wanted into town with 20-30%
> >>lower
> >> > prices. Do you really believe Moscow wouldn't support that? What
>about
> >> > costco?"
> >> >
> >> > I would need to know more (and hopefully so would the city council)
> >>about
> >> > the food co-op that you mention. What are its hiring practices?
>What
> >>is
> >> > the "track record" of that business? How else would the community
> >>benefit
> >> > from having that business located here in Moscow (other than lower
> >>prices)?
> >> > Etc. Etc. Etc. . . . As far as Costco is concerned, I am unfamiliar
> >>with
> >> > their business practices.
> >> >
> >> > Tom Hansen
> >> > Moscow, Idaho
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Matt Decker [mailto:mattd2107 at hotmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:47 PM
> >> > To: thansen at moscow.com; privatejf32 at hotmail.com;
>vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA
>Issues
> >> >
> >> > Tom,
> >> >
> >> > I thought we did this already. Please call me Matt. Just as I hope I
>can
> >> > call you Tom.
> >> >
> >> > Tom I don't really feel we need a super duper jumbo size walmart.
> >>However, I
> >> >
> >> > think doing a big business ban is or can be hypocritical. EX. lets
>say a
> >>150
> >> >
> >> > k sq ft food co-op wanted into town with 20-30% lower prices. Do you
> >>really
> >> > believe Moscow wouldn't support that? What about costco?
> >> >
> >> > Do I shop at wally world? Only when my wife makes me. I hate the
>place.
> >>I
> >> > think they sell shit, plaine and simple. They do serve a purpose
>though.
> >>You
> >> >
> >> > and I both know those so I won't go into detail. Do I think they will
> >>put a
> >> > bunch of businesses out of business? NO.
> >> >
> >> > Plus getting 15% of their taxes is better then them going 1/4 mile
> >>across
> >> > the boarder, giving Wash the money.
> >> >
> >> > Matt
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> >> >>To: "'Matt Decker'" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>,
><privatejf32 at hotmail.com>,
> >> >
> >> >> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >> >>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA
>Issues
> >> >>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 16:30:40 -0800
> >> >>
> >> >>However, Mr. Decker, you yourself stated that by buying locally "more
> >> >>importantly profits stay here". That is simply not the case with
> >>Wal-mart.
> >> >>
> >> >>Tom Hansen
> >> >>Moscow, Idaho
> >> >>
> >> >>"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of
> >>arriving
> >> >>safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid
>in
> >> >>sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body
>thoroughly
> >>used
> >> >>up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"
> >> >>
> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >>From: Matt Decker [mailto:mattd2107 at hotmail.com]
> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:23 PM
> >> >>To: thansen at moscow.com; privatejf32 at hotmail.com;
>vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA
>Issues
> >> >>
> >> >>Tom,
> >> >>
> >> >>LOL!!!!!!!!!
> >> >>
> >> >>Smart growth would be trying to get businesses into the community and
> >>not
> >> >>trying to push them away, along with our tax money.
> >> >>
> >> >>Matt
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> >> >> >To: "'Matt Decker'" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>,
> >><privatejf32 at hotmail.com>,
> >> >>
> >> >> > <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >> >> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Parking Survey Under Way and other NSA
> >>Issues
> >> >> >Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:19:01 -0800
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Matt Decker stated:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"For example: every time they buy something from this community the
> >> >>dollar
> >> >> >stays here. Whether its businesses ran by other church members or
>if
> >>it's
> >> >> >my
> >> >> >business, which I have at least 4 members that have purchased
> >>sprinklers
> >> >> >from be. I in turn spend by money locally thus keeping the money
>here.
> >> >>Some
> >> >> >taxes stay here but more importantly profits stay here."
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Sounds like a strong endorsement against Wal-Mart and in favor of
> >>local
> >> >> >businesses, Matt. Thanks. Those of us who support smart growth
> >> >>appreciate
> >> >> >your comments.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Tom Hansen
> >> >> >Moscow, idaho
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"If not us, who?
> >> >> >If not now, when?"
> >> >> >
> >> >> >- Unknown
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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