[Vision2020] attacks, gossip, and fairness

Thu Feb 1 18:45:18 PST 2007

Gee, Pat I didn't know that you were the supreme arbiter of what is to 
be the content of posts on Vision2020.

Although not all posts on this forum are to everyone else's taste, why 
try to deprive J Ford or Lemon-O for that matter the opportunity to 
express their opinions?  If you don't like a post, delete it or filter 
the sender out.  If you think a post  wrong or whatever, make an 
intelligent answering comment.  Please do not deprive the reat of us.

J Ford's are often informative and show a keen intelligence.  Farris's 
post give a revealing insight to the hypocrisy and the Anti-Christ 
nature of the cult.

I look forward to Nick Gier and J Ford's posts.  Some of J Ford's posts 
have motivated some city workers to do some obviously needed chores. 

Try some L-Theanine.

W.

Pat Kraut wrote:
> Can you have any appreciation for how much I and many others do not care
> what Mr. Wilson teaches? It is none of our business it is only a personal
> vendetta on your part. You and Gier need to get a life.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] attacks, gossip, and fairness
>
>
> This was NOT gossip; it IS fact.  I brought it out because I feel the
> mis-use of church people, to be self-promoting and for self-gain, is
> despicable and Doug W seems to be willing to pass on his penchant for doing
> this (remember the truck?) as is evidenced by Doug F's request.
>
> I also find it despicable that Doug W demands in one breath that a husband
> not only not allow his wife to work out of the home, but that the husband is
> to provide well enough for the family so as to not even appear to be a
> failure and then to turn around and allow Doug F to solicit for something
> for he and his wife that is NOT needed for the family to survive.  To me,
> this is hypocritical and disgusting, to say the least.
>
> THAT was my point of bringing this out.  The facts behind my getting this
> information is not open to discussion and will never be, so people e-mailing
> me and asking for that revelation - forget it.  Won't happen, period.
> However it came to me is not the important issue.  The fact that one of the
> kirkers felt it necessary to go outside of their church to get information
> out says a lot about the trust factor within the organization.  Again, this
> was a factual item.
>
> How about what Doug F has written about other people's family situation,
> children and even the last e-mail that he wrote about a certain "problem"
> and "how to solve it" - This is pure trash - but do we see others screaming
> about that?!  No!  So, get off my back about my e-mail, get off your high
> horse about ripping into me about it and get back to what the point of why
> it was posted - being hypocritical and begging for something that is NOT
> necessary and something that should be provided for by the husband, NOT the
> church membership.
>
> So, go off on yourself for not taking Doug F to task for writing the pure
> hatred in his last TWO posts, especially, and bugger off me!
>
> I have said my apologies and that will be that!  You want to think less of
> it - fine...whatever.  But I would hope I see a HELL of a lot regarding Doug
> F's filth that he has just put out there, as well as something about the
> other hateful e-mail he posted earlier.
>
>
> J  :]
>
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>> From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: [Vision2020] attacks, gossip, and fairness
>> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 10:42:42 -0800
>>
>>
>>
>> I've been taken to task offlist by people angered at my earlier comments
>> regarding J Ford's posting of church support for Doug Farris and his wife's
>> anniversary trip.  I'm sorry that people feel I've been unfair to J Ford.
>> I disagree.  And I'm sorry if it seemed to them that it was cowardly of me
>> to respond only after Doug himself responded.  Again, I disagree.
>>
>> To respond to J's post without waiting for a response from Doug, the
>> subject of it, would have just promoted more gossip.  Doug's response
>> included J's post and gave as much information about what was going on as
>> J's.  My waiting until Doug wrote was to ensure that gossip didn't
>> continue; if he was OK discussing it online, then I was.  If not, I would
>> have written a much more general reprimand, without details, and if J's
>> post was factually wrong and corrected by Doug, I would have written even a
>> stronger one.
>>
>> J, I know you to be a decent person, and I do care how you feel.  I didn't
>> like what you did and felt that it deserved to be called out.  That's all.
>>
>> keely
>>
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