[Vision2020] Trinity Festival protest

g. crabtree jampot at roadrunner.com
Sun Aug 12 12:26:31 PDT 2007


Now that you mention it, it does. The plot comes perfectly into focus. They are going to subvert Moscow by raising up a crop of well mannered youth who can actually read, write, and speak in complete coherent sentences. Run for the hills, we don't stand a chance.

g
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Hansen 
  To: 'g. crabtree' ; 'Andreas Schou' 
  Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com ; 'Joe Campbell' 
  Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:01 PM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Trinity Festival protest


  And also from the "League of the South" website at:

   

  http://www.leagueofthesouth.net/static/homepage/ls-intro.html

   

  Dr. Michael Hill, League of the South President states:

   

  "Most organizations founder because they lack self-definition and a definite goal. The League of the South is a Southern Nationalist organization whose ultimate goal is a free and independent Southern republic. To reach this goal, we intend to create the climate for a free South among our people by 1) de-legitimating the American Empire at every opportunity; 2) by proving our willingness to be servant-leaders to the Southern people; and 3) by making The League of the South a strong, viable organization that will lead us to Southern independence. 

   

  While our overall strategy--short, medium, and long range--is determined by the President, the Board, and our State Chairman, our tactical operational focus is on the local level. We intend to form active chapters in every county in every Southern State, and as many chapters as possible in non-Southern States. We also encourage individuals and families to personally secede from the corrupt and corrupting influence of post-Christian culture in America. We call this "abjuring the realm," and it's a real and dramatic first step all of us can take by simply withdrawing our support of and allegiance to a regime that has imperiled our future. 

   

  While we seek to use shame and contempt to de-legitimate the institutions controlled by the Empire, we must not stop there. We must create our own parallel institutions to which our people can attach their loyalties. A good example of this is the move out of the "public" schools and into home schooling or the establishment of our own private academies. Also, the League sponsors weekend Hedge Schools and week-long summer institutes to educate our people."

   

  Question:  Does that last paragraph remind anybody of a local "group"?

   

  This is merely the proverbial tip of the iceberg, g.

   

  Seeya round town, Moscow.

  Tom Hansen
  Moscow, Idaho

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  "When people sin, everybody has to pay."

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  From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of g. crabtree
  Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 11:48 AM
  To: Andreas Schou
  Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com; Joe Campbell
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Trinity Festival protest

   

  Mr. Schou,

  Considering your penchant for overblown rhetoric and fudging the facts on this topic you will have to forgive me if I do not accept your every utterance as though it were revealed truth.

   

  Your "long" post seems to be equal parts guilt by association, accusations of past ill considered remarks with no reference, citation, or context, and your own unique spin as applied to the purported statements of others. Hardly the sort of thing that is going to do a more effective job of convincing me of the imminent harm that will befall our community from the dread CC than the "thousands" of other rants you have gone off on before.

   

  It would appear that you would have me believe that you have the singular ability to see beyond what I hear with my own two ears and can read with my own to eyes and discern the truth of all that is Christ Church. That somehow you have been given free reign to roam the back country of the Wilson psyche. Your inability to back up your assertions with anything by way of solid reference leads me to the conclusion that your dire warnings are the product of your overly liberal mind set along with an unfounded fear of Christianity and precious little to do with fact.

   

  As an example, you refer to the league of the south as "a neo-confederate hate group" as though this were an incontrovertible fact and not just an opinion held by a few like minded chicken little's and "progressive" parrots.

   

  From their website:

   

  "We bear no ill will or hatred to any racial, ethnic, or religious group. 

  We believe that Christianity and social order require that all people, regardless of race, must be equal before the law. We do not believe that the law should be used to persecute, oppress, or favor any race or class. 

  We believe that the only harmony possible between the races, as between all natural differences among human beings, begins in submitting to Jesus Christ's commandment to "love our neighbors as ourselves." That is the world we envision and work for."

  I suppose that your response would be "so they say but I know better" but baring evidence, I'm inclined to take them at their word. Now were you to provide solid evidence of their being involved in a criminal act, you will have found the right button to push to convince me to change my mind. With out it, just more heated hyperbole such as you have served up all to often in the past.

  What this all boils down to is you would have me and the rest of the community believe that Wilson wants to kill homosexuals and oppress women and enslave ethnic minorities. What I see is a church that has amongst its fellowship live homosexuals and smart, capable women and independent minorities. Which should I believe you and your unsubstantiated allegations or what I,  or anyone else for that matter, can see and hear for themselves? 

   

  g
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