[Vision2020] New You-Tube for your summer entertainment.

[Tom Hansen]

" . . . wording plays a big part in understand[ing] the nature and meaning a
verse written two thousand years ago in a different language, and some
Bibles just have it plain wrong."

- Donovan Arnold (August 23, 2005)

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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:54 PM
To: Paul Rumelhart; heirdoug at netscape.net
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New You-Tube for your summer entertainment.

 

Paul,

 

Without a belief in a supernatural being life is not meaningful. Everything
is only as it appears to be, nothing more. All actions, fortunes,
misfortunes, and events are nothing more than happenstances. What a boring
and pointless existence someone must have to believe that there is no higher
intended purpose in life or what you do with it. 

 

Best,

 

Donovan

Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

I really despise these cutesy propaganda-ish jibes at the 
non-believers. But putting that aside for the moment, I'm trying to 
understand their point. At best, they seem to be saying that without a 
caring/feeling religion like Christianity, people treat life like it 
means nothing and can develop into despots and nazis. Yet when you look 
over the last couple of thousand of years of Christianity, you notice 
things like the Crusades, the Inquisitions, and the witch burnings. 

We've argued on this list before about who has racked up the highest 
body count. The answer varies depending upon who you trust for a 
historical record and who you do or don't count in modern times. 

However, if you can't easily find the answer then it follows that 
religion has no affect whatsoever on a human beings seeming need to kill 
it's own kind. 

I don't know which is better. A God that so often inspires people to 
kill in the name of Good, or the lack of a belief in a God that fails to 
keep our basest instincts in line. It's my opinion that the people that 
do these kinds of things are just looking for an excuse no matter what 
rationalizations they finally decide upon.

Paul

heirdoug at netscape.net wrote:
> I thought some of you who think for a living would like this one.
> enjoy, Doug!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm1JYYIk-pI
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