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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>" . . . wording plays a big part in
understand[ing] the nature and meaning a verse written two thousand years ago
in a different language, and some Bibles just have it plain wrong."<br>
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- Donovan Arnold (August 23, 2005)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Donovan Arnold<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 06, 2007 9:54
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Paul Rumelhart;
heirdoug@netscape.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] New
You-Tube for your summer entertainment.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'>Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Without a belief in a supernatural being life is not meaningful.
Everything is only as it appears to be, nothing more. All actions, fortunes,
misfortunes, and events are nothing more than happenstances. What a boring and
pointless existence someone must have to believe that there is no higher
intended purpose in life or what you do with it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Donovan<br>
<br>
<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Paul Rumelhart
<godshatter@yahoo.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>I really despise these cutesy propaganda-ish jibes at the <br>
non-believers. But putting that aside for the moment, I'm trying to <br>
understand their point. At best, they seem to be saying that without a <br>
caring/feeling religion like Christianity, people treat life like it <br>
means nothing and can develop into despots and nazis. Yet when you look <br>
over the last couple of thousand of years of Christianity, you notice <br>
things like the Crusades, the Inquisitions, and the witch burnings. <br>
<br>
We've argued on this list before about who has racked up the highest <br>
body count. The answer varies depending upon who you trust for a <br>
historical record and who you do or don't count in modern times. <br>
<br>
However, if you can't easily find the answer then it follows that <br>
religion has no affect whatsoever on a human beings seeming need to kill <br>
it's own kind. <br>
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I don't know which is better. A God that so often inspires people to <br>
kill in the name of Good, or the lack of a belief in a God that fails to <br>
keep our basest instincts in line. It's my opinion that the people that <br>
do these kinds of things are just looking for an excuse no matter what <br>
rationalizations they finally decide upon.<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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heirdoug@netscape.net wrote:<br>
> I thought some of you who think for a living would like this one.<br>
> enjoy, Doug!<br>
><br>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm1JYYIk-pI<br>
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