[Vision2020] Infanticide or Abortion?

[Tony]

Nick, with regard to those "aggressive" babies that need killing to which 
you referred:  Why do you insist on manipulating the English language in 
order to mislead others?  You consistently use the word anti- in reference 
to those who advocate life for the most innocent.  To favor life over its 
extinction hardly constitutes being anti.  It is you bloodthirsty leftists 
that favor death for our offspring who are anti.... anti-life.  Kindly stop 
dishonoring your education by inaccurate and misleading use of language.

Is it your contention then, that partial birth abortion is NEVER performed 
on viable infants?  Third, How would simply finishing a delivery that was 
80% completed, threaten the mother's life?  Those who rabidly cling to a 
supposed "right" to kill commonly misuse this scenario in order to maintain 
abortions under ANY circumstances at ANY time, simply as a matter of 
convenience.  The left parades itself as this kind-hearted, progressive 
entity concerned for the plight of the disenfranchised, all the while 
petulantly demanding unrestricted hedonism unshackled by any 
responsibilities or consequences.

What selfish brats they reveal themselves to be.

-Tony
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:59 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] Infanticide or Abortion?


> Greetings:
>
> Thanks, Andreas, for offering that dramatic Biblical perspective.
>
> I'm also too busy being an intellectual mutant to respond in detail, but I 
> challenge anyone to prove, using the Bible alone, that the ancient Hebrews 
> or the early Christians believed that the fetus was a person from 
> conception on.  I've covered all the arguments that I know at 
> www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/abortion.htm, and I welcome any new attempts 
> (or objections to my readings) that may prove the anti-abortionist 
> position.
>
> All that I have to say about the partial birth issue is that legal 
> provisions have always been given for late term abortions in the case of a 
> threat to the health and life of the mother.  In fact, most 
> anti-abortionists agree that abortions should be performed to save the 
> life of the mother.  The ancient Hebrews believed that in this case the 
> fetus is an "aggressor" and one has a duty to kill an aggressor in self 
> defense.
>
> Nick Gier
>
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