[Vision2020] What Part of innapropriate Don't You Understand?

[Tony]

Paul, you are a reservoir of potential solutions!  Why had the option of 
yoga not occurred to me as a potential solution to the debate over gay 
marriage??  Surely you are on to something.  And they all wear tights 
already, right?

Just kidding.

I have no interest in suppressing anyone's legitimate rights, I just 
disagree that the right to marry should extend to inappropriate couplings.

You ask how I might object to a relationship when both parties consent to 
it's terms.
Well...  Suppose I knew an overbearing and domineering fellow who felt manly 
only when denigrating or humiliating his spouse.  Suppose further that said 
spouse got her jollies by being thus abused.  Should I applaud this abusive 
arrangement even though they seem oddly compatible?  Or would I be a more 
genuine friend to them both by suggesting that they  get some therapy?

Off to string some wiring, slam a couple cold longnecks and chill with the 
brood...... Hope you have a cool Sunday.       -Tony
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] What Part of innapropriate Don't You Understand?


> Tony wrote:
>
>>Can't you get it through your thick skull Teach?  There is nothing
>>inappropriate about a person being and acting as a woman.  There is 
>>nothing
>>inappropriate about someone having and living with black skin.  But there
>>is, as I have repeatedly discussed unimpeachably, something manifestly
>>inappropriate about homosexuality.  Our respective genitalia, male and
>>female alike, were obviously designed and intended to interact to 
>>facilitate
>>reproduction.  Homosexual behavior is a MALADJUSTMENT.
>>
>>
>
> I've heard many accounts of people who are attracted to their own gender
> despite the pressures in their environment that are trying to get them
> to conform to what society has deemed to be more "appropriate", and
> despite the fact that their plumbing isn't compatible.  Most of these
> people at some level would rather not have the desires they have at
> times just so that the pressures would go away.  Many will be relieved
> to know that they are simply maladjusted and that they should easily be
> able to change their natures with a little meditation, some expensive
> therapy and maybe some yoga thrown in for good measure.
>
> If, on the other hand, they really are simply built that way and not
> some environmentally-derived mistake in parenting or something, than it
> would be criminal to suppress their rights merely because it offends
> some people who aren't in that situation.
>
> Me, I tend to leave it up to the individual when it comes to determining
> whom a person should be attracted to.  If they are attracted to someone
> with whom their plumbing is compatible, so much the better.  If they are
> attracted to their same gender, more power to them.  If it's in their
> nature to be that way, then who am I to criticize their design?  If
> you've got a problem with it, and believe in a god or gods, then take it
> up with their Creator.  As long as we are talking about two people who
> can both consent to a relationship, then what's the problem?
>
> If it's our ability to reproduce as a species that worries you, have no
> fear.  Technology today can do wonders in that area.  We have sperm
> banks, fertility clinics, and surrogate births to help us survive.  Not
> to mention very specialized pre- and post-natal care.  Oh, and
> adoptions.  We are not in any danger of dying out as a species based on
> our reproductive capability any time soon.
>
> Is it your desire to help these unfortunate, maladjusted people that
> makes you so passionate about this?  If so, that's very noble of you.
>
> Paul
>
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