[Vision2020] Debate or Coward?

[J Ford]

"And they also  do a lot of good for the community."



Heck, what "community" do they do any good for, for that matter?  They are 
NOT a part of the Food Bank, Clothing Bank, Pastor's Group, Community 
Action, etc.

J  :]





>From: Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net>
>To: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>CC: Michael <metzler at moscow.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Debate or Coward?
>Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 0:42:47 -0700
>
>I'm just wondering, Donovan, what exactly are the RELIGIOUS beliefs that 
>folks at CC endorse with which Michael disagrees?
>
>Best, Joe
>
>---- Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>=============
>Michael,
>
>   I really think you need to find a new hobby besides bashing members of a 
>church you disagree with. It cannot be healthy.
>
>   Yes, I am sure you can find lots of outrageous, offense, frustrating,  
>and arguably unfair beliefs and practices of Christ Church. But you  know, 
>they are by far not the biggest or worst religion. And they also  do a lot 
>of good for the community.
>
>  Take my church for  example. It is headed by a former Nazi who later 
>masterminded a  conspiracy to protect the largest number of child molesters 
>in the  United States by moving them around from parish to parish. He 
>oppresses  woman, and preaches that gays are immoral. He has more followers 
>than  any other religion, including in this town. There is another religion 
>  that kills homosexuals and launches violent attacks against people that  
>even draw a cartoon of their God.
>
>   Nobody is forcing  you to believe or practice what you want. And 
>likewise, nobody has to  justify their personal religious beliefs and 
>actions to you. If you  don't agree with their words and actions you are 
>free to join another  religion or start one of your own.
>
>   Best,
>
>   _DJA
>
>
>Michael <metzler at moscow.com> wrote:                    
>st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }                    Donavan!  What 
>are you saying?
>
>     Story line again:
>
>     Kirkers insult community; Kirkers have big theonomist, take over 
>eschatology.
>
>     Community critiques Kirkers as any community would.
>
>     Kirkers unable to rationally defend themselves against criticism; they 
>  instead lie.
>
>     Kirkers continue to insult.
>
>     Insults mount from both directions, and through all the smoke, not one 
>meaningful  and true response is found from the Kirk.
>
>     This is the story, and this is my point.
>
>     You,  Donavan, are becoming more mysterious as the months drag on. But 
>hey,  that’s ok; I’ll still be your friend. Even if you just might have 
>  defending the Nazi’s against the persecution from the Jews!  And  
>remember, I still have friends in the Kirk.  Call me Shindler….
>
>     Michael
>
>
>     Michael,
>
>   You wrote:
>
>   "Does  not anyone at the Kirk have a rational, argumentative point to be 
>made  about the constant and varied public criticism against them?"
>
>   Like I said, I think you guys should just take your case to the city 
>council to  require all members of Christ   Church be given a giant  bright 
>yellow star to wear on their arm so we can easily recognize them.
>
>   Best,
>
>   _DJA
>
>   Michael  <metzler at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>Lucy Jones writes:
>
>
>
>“If it's not interesting, you could *advertise* it on V2020 the way other 
>bloggers do who need more
>
>  attention.”
>
>
>     I  am unceasingly dumfounded at how kirkers can continue to make 
>veiled  and slanderous comments even when they are continually exposed for 
>what  they are.  Just this morning I located another kirk blog linked to  
>my site that revealed yet another misquote. Dale Cortney still refuses  to 
>pull an intentional misquote from my blog that has now been up for  months. 
>This is amazing. After 8 months, and every kirk attack has been  in the 
>form of bald falsehood, nonsensical ridicule, or else strong  critique of 
>strawed-man quotes ripped out of context.  Does not  anyone at the Kirk 
>have a rational, argumentative point to be made  about the constant and 
>varied public criticism against them?   Outside of the silly 
>“persecution” ploy?
>
>     As  for this quote: this has become one of the steady anti-pooh 
>mantras  that kirkers sooth themselves with. So please allow me just this 
>one  time to quickly and modestly point out the relevant fact that my  
>readership is as strong as Peter Leithart’s; you might recall how  Wilson 
>boasted about Leithart’s blog in his sermon when   explaining why he was 
>the truly anointed one in Moscow.  Apparently, the kind of “interest” 
>Leithart’s blog gets is evidence for  the fact that YHWH will defend the 
>Kirk against its local enemies; I  guess I now have evidence that YHWH is 
>routing for me too.  In  sum, I certainly haven’t sent links to Vision 
>2020 to keep a “needed”  readership (putting aside the claims that I 
>have a mental disorder); I  just like local readership more than non-local, 
>given the common topic  of my blog (which, by the way, is only about 40% 
>Kirk stuff these  days).
>
>     Dear kirkers, say something true and meaningful.
>
>     Sincerely,
>     Michael Metzler
>     www.poohsthink.com
>
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