[Vision2020] downtown: Moscow/Pullman Hwy. Mall?

Jeff Harkins jeffh at moscow.com
Thu Oct 5 20:02:00 PDT 2006 

Hmmm - I wonder how a grocery store a few meters into WA would fare?

Freedom of choice is just a wonder!

At 08:40 AM 10/3/2006, you wrote:
>A quick observation, DJA, were you not the one complaining about the
>construction downtown and how it doubled your gas consumption so you
>would be doing all of your shopping on the east side of town until it
>is done?  Now you are going to drive to the other side of Pullman to
>save 6 cents on the dollar for groceries?  That is if the Walmart is
>near Safeway.
>
>Also, I know it is easy to do and many people like to lump all retail
>box stores into one category, but the quality and service differs
>greatly between say Target and Walmart.  I worked for both companies
>and would work for Target again in a heart beat.  I am still using
>things I bought at Target, over six years ago, on a regular basis
>because they still work.  I cannot say the same thing about the things
>I bought at Walmart.  They sell items cheap for a reason.  They are
>not the same product even if the box looks the same.  While working
>for Target we had a customer return a kitchen appliance, I think it
>was a hand mixer.  We had the same brand, same box, but the UPC on the
>box did not come up in our system. We asked them if they had purchased
>it at a Target, they said no, they bought it at Walmart.  I won't go
>into the differences in service, training employees, or dealing with
>internal complaints, I could write for hours on those differences.
>
>Soo you can think they are all the same, but they are not.  I am
>willing to let Walmart have a place in the area, I won't try and ban
>them, but they are not the bastion of greatness that some seem to
>think they are.
>
>Oh and your desired choices you would like to see, we already have two
>of them in the area, the Bon is Macy's and Sears at the East Side
>Market place.  Let's strive for more than Walmart.
>
>--Mo
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>Date: Monday, October 2, 2006 7:22 pm
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] downtown: Moscow/Pullman Hwy. Mall?
>To: Melissa Hendrickson <hend5953 at uidaho.edu>
>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>
> > Mo,
> >
> >  You could very well be right about the location. But I heard
> > they were thinking of the HWY location.
> >
> >  I don't think that Fred Meyer, ShopKo, Kmart, Target, etc are
> > any  different then Wal-Mart, they all sell the same crap. The
> > only  difference being that Wal_mart has overall lower prices on
> > most items.  When I think variety I think like Wal Mart,  Bon,
> > Banana Republic,  Sears etc.
> >
> > I also think that it is very possible for  Moscow and Pullman to
> > both have a Super Wal_mart. The Palouse  population is about
> > 75,000. If half the population visited Wal_mart  once a week and
> > spent $100 on groceries and other items that would be  $500,000 a
> > week in sales. Between two stores, that is still over $1  Million
> > a month in sales per store. That is well beyond what most  stores
> > in the area can do.
> >
> > I for one, regardless of  location, will be buying groceries in
> > Whitman county because of the  price difference and to protest
> > grocery tax hikes.
> >
> >  Best,
> >
> >  _DJA
> >
> >   Melissa Hendrickson <hend5953 at uidaho.edu> wrote:  I heard
> > recently that they were going to start breaking ground soon
> > across
> > from Safeway, but maybe my source was wrong.  It makes sense for
> > Walmartto want a central location too bad they need to put in a
> > whole new
> > building, rather than planning ahead when they built the current
> > store
> > for
> > potential growth in the future.
> >
> > This area is not big enough to support
> > two super walmarts, so I for one am glad there will only be one store
> > between the two towns.  Two super walmarts seems like a little
> > over kill
> > to me, lets shoot for a little more choice, maybe Target, Fred
> > Meyer,
> > Etc.
> > Choice is a good thing.
> >
> > --Mo
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Donovan Arnold
> > Date: Monday, October 2, 2006 2:00 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] downtown: Moscow/Pullman Hwy. Mall?
> > To: Melissa Hendrickson
> > Cc: Dan Carscallen , vision2020 at moscow.com
> >
> > > Mo,
> > >
> > > My understanding is that property has already been sold,  across
> > > from Safeway to somebody else. A manager working at Wal-Mart
> > told
> > > me it is going in next to the new shopping center on the state
> > > line because they were not able to get a second store on the
> > Troy
> > > Highway like planned. The original plan was to have a store on
> > the
> > > west  side of Pullman and a store on the east side Moscow. When
> > > that failed,  they wanted one in a more central location to get
> > as
> > > much of both  markets as possible. That makes more sense to me,
> > > then to expect  everyone to drive out to the west side Pullman
> > of
> > > give up the business  of all of Latah and lots of Moscow.
> > >
> > >  Best,
> > >
> > >  _DJA
> > >
> > > Melissa Hendrickson  wrote:  The Pullman
> > > Super Walmart is going in across from Safeway, not just
> > > across the border on the Moscow/Pullman Highway.  So it will not
> > > be as
> > > convenient as you might think to simply stop shopping at Winco
> > and
> > > start shopping at the Super Walmart.
> > >
> > > --Mo
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Donovan Arnold
> > > Date: Monday, October 2, 2006 12:23 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] downtown: Moscow/Pullman Hwy. Mall?
> > > To: Dan Carscallen , vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >
> > > > Ted,
> > > >
> > > >  That is where they are going to build the new SuperWalmart.
> > > >
> > > >  Whitman is just thrilled that Moscow Elites gave them all
> > their
> > > > future property tax revenues and sales income.
> > > >
> > > >  I am going to go to the Super Walmart, just like everybody
> > else
> > > > making  less than 50K a year. But I think it is upsetting that
> > > all
> > > > the taxes  are going to Whitman County instead of to Latah
> > which
> > > > is why I wanted a  store here, it was going to happen anyway.
> > > The
> > > > 6% sales tax on food at  Winco will be enough to send all the
> > > > college students the 200 feet west  to Super Walmart instead
> > of
> > > > Winco.
> > > >
> > > > Do the math. If Walmart  is 5% cheaper than Winco, plus 6% not
> > > > taxed, that is an 11% difference  in price. If a college
> > student
> > > > spends about $250 a month on groceries,  at a wage of $5.15,
> > > that
> > > > is 5.3 hours of work saved by going to Wal  Mart instead of
> > > Winco.
> > > > If a college student works only about 50 hours a  month, that
> > is
> > > > 10% of their wages saved. What college student isn't  going
> > make
> > > > the little effort to save that much of their meager earnings?
> > > >
> > > >  Best,
> > > >
> > > >  _DJA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dan Carscallen  wrote:  Ted asks:
> > > > "Does anyone know if the mall on the Washington St. side of the
> > > > Moscow/Pullman Hwy. is still going forward?"
> > > >
> > > > Yes it is.  Here's the site you refer to:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>http://www.hawkinscompanies.com/fliers/WA_Pullman_Hwy270_AirportRd_F.pd
>f
> > > >
> > > > DC
> > > >
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