[Vision2020] Persecution is Part of Christianity

[g. crabtree]

Mr. Nielsen, I am certain that there is a boat load of difference between 
"comment on" and "answer for." I am also sure that you are already well 
aware of this.

As to your contention that it's an "oxymoron" that atheists don't worship 
any god, I would respectfully beg to differ. It seems to me that, in their 
own minds, they worship at the altar of science, rationality, and 
secularism. Were this not the case why would you devote so much of your 
precious time over the years to correcting what you perceive as  the error 
and folly that you imagine *other* religious groups have made?

Lastly, I find your rhetorical style to be fascinating. First you demand 
that Mr. Iverson explain the Pope's comments and then you call on me to do 
the same. Then you toss it all off with how Pastor Lynn didn't mention the 
Pope at all. I am not communicating with Pastor Lynn. I am responding 
(incoherently perhaps) to you.

gc

It is impossible for there to be a person with no religion (i.e. without any 
kind of relationship to the world) as it is for there to be a person without 
a heart. He may not know that he has a religion, just as a person may not 
know that he has a heart, but it is no more possible for a person to exist 
without a religion than without a heart. (Leo Tolstoy, 1879)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ralph Nielsen" <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
To: <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
Cc: <jampot at adelphia.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 11:14 AM
Subject: Persecution is Part of Christianity


>
> Ralph Nielsen wrote in the Daily News
>
> Ed Iverson displays a fair amount of intolerance himself. He claims that
> "Muslims worship a different god and behave differently as a 
> consequence."
> But the Pope claims that Muslims and Christians worship the same God. 
> Which
> is it, Mr. Iverson?
>
> gc wrote in Vision2020
>
> Where is the intolerance in the statement that "Muslims worship a 
> different
> god and behave differently as a consequence." This seems self evident. I
> don't see any mention of revoking their right to exist or worship. Does
> anyone dispute the accuracy of the statement that atheists worship a
> different God and behave differently as a result? Also, it seems odd  to 
> call
> on a local protestant to answer for statements made by the Pope. Sort of
> like me calling on Ralph to answer for remarks made by Leo Tolstoy, 
> Absurd.
>
> gc
>
> Ralph Nielsen in Vision2020
>
> People like Iverson and his employers seem to imagine themselves to  be 
> the only true Christians, and, consequently, believers in the only  true 
> god. But the Pope claims that Muslims and Christians worship the  same 
> God. Does this mean that the Pope, too, doesn't believe in the  only true 
> god?
>
> For gc to claim that atheists worship any god at all is an oxymoron.  And 
> if he would please read Pastor Roger Lynn's letter again, he will  see 
> that Lynn didn't mention the Pope at all. I see no reason why I  shouldn't 
> comment on Leo Tolstoy or any other famous writer. After  all, I am a 
> librarian. On a personal note, I was very pleased to see  the statue of 
> Leo Tolstoy in the Doukhobor Village Museum last time I  visited Castlegar 
> BC. Blessed are the peacemakers.
>
> Ralph
>
>