[Vision2020] [Vision2020 liberals, courts, and Tony (was Pledge)

[g. crabtree]

Ms. Lund,

Your post is confusing. I hardly know where to begin. The quotes I provided were intact and taken directly from the Wikipedia article which I referenced and was excerpting. The point I was trying to make is the same one you made when you said "Nor am I Doug Farris, who used the term recently here on V2020 in a manner consistent with the valid non-slur use." Just like hansen's heroes, Kerry and Irvins.

So, no selective quoting, no invalid points. Bubble intact, I guess. Had I provided the article in its entirety, my point would not have been altered or diminished in the least. I am confused as to just where the pet peevery comes into the picture, unless its simply having the effrontery to disagree with one of your pals.

g


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
To: "'g. crabtree'" <jampot at adelphia.net>; "'Tom Hansen'" <thansen at moscow.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:20 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] [Vision2020 liberals, courts, and Tony (was Pledge)


> With respect to "tar baby," Gary Crabtree wrote:
> "The warm fuzzy appreciation for diversity expressed by...?"
> 
> Ah, yes -- selective quoting is so useful, particularly if no one catches on
> ;-)
> 
> More *complete* info from the Wikipedia article Gary quoted:
> "The Tar-Baby was a doll made of tar and turpentine, used to entrap Bre'r
> Rabbit in the second of the Uncle Remus stories. The more that Bre'r Rabbit
> fought the Tar-Baby, trying to get free, the more stuck he got.
> 
> Thus, a "tar baby" is metaphorically any "sticky situation"[1] that is only
> aggravated by efforts to solve it.
> 
> Over the years, the term has also acquired a negative connotation as a
> derogatory term for African Americans."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_baby
> 
> So, unlike the racial epitaph used Tony Simpson, tar baby has valid and
> "acceptable non-slur use."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs#T
> It's not a term I would use particularly because of the potential for
> confusion and exploitation, but I'm not John Kerry or Molly Ivins . . . nor
> am I Tony Snow or Mitt Romney.  Nor am I Doug Farris, who used the term
> recently here on V2020 in a manner consistent with the valid non-slur use.
> 
> Sorry to burst your bubble, Gary.  Actually, I'm not -- selective quoting in
> an attempt to make an invalid point is one of my pet peeves.
> 
> 
> Back to Shoveling Snow,
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
> 
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> - Edmund Burke
> 
> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2006, Saundra Lund.
> Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum
> without the express written permission of the author.*****
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: g. crabtree [mailto:jampot at adelphia.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:36 AM
> To: Tom Hansen; 'Tony'; 'Saundra Lund'
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Vision2020 liberals, courts, and Tony (was
> Pledge)
> 
> From Wikipedia:
> 
> John F. Kerry, U.S. Senator from Massachusetts, speaking of his staff's
> advice to not pursue an investigation into American POW/MIA's from the
> Vietnam War, was quoted on 10 August 1992: "Everybody on my staff, everybody
> I knew thought I was crazy, and said, 'Don't do this...' ... They said it's
> a no-win tar baby."
> 
> Molly Ivins, a nationally syndicated liberal columnist, wrote in October
> 2001: "It now looks, with 20-20 hindsight, as though he should have taken a
> few more deep breaths before smacking that tar-baby that is Afghanistan."
> 
> The warm fuzzy appreciation for diversity expressed by...?
> 
> 
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: "'Tony'" <tonytime at clearwire.net>; "'Saundra Lund'" 
> <sslund at adelphia.net>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 5:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Vision2020 liberals, courts, and Tony (was
> Pledge)
> 
> 
>> ToeKnee stated:
>>
>> "Saundra, you failed to accurately assess my intent in using the term 
>> RAGHEAD last time I explained it to you and you continue to show a 
>> lack of appreciation for diversity by refusing to consider the 
>> different perspective of some Americans post 911."
>>
>> Ahh, yes.  The warm, fuzzy appreciation for diversity so eloquently 
>> expressed toward ToeKnee's "ragheads" and No-Clue's "tar-babies".
>>
>> Merry Christmas to both of you.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>
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>>
>> "Once again here's a bunch of radicals attempting to force their 
>> lifestyle on people who do not wish to recognize that lifestyle as 
>> normal.  What ever happened to live and let live?"
>>
>> - Varnel W. (March 18, 2006)
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