[Vision2020] Martyr

[heirdoug at netscape.net]

-----Original Message-----
From: heirdoug at netscape.net
To: nielsen at uidaho.edu; heirdoug at netscape.net; sslund at adelphia.net
Cc: ngier at uidaho.edu
Sent: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Martyr

Ralph, 
 
I'm glad that you brought this back up. Both you and Nick cannot seem 
to get the facts correct in this case (and with 37 years of accurate 
writing). Ben Merkle pointed these things out to Nick previously. Maybe 
Nick can post the emails on his university owned blog site. 
 
It was the city council that bbq'd Servetus. It was the city council 
that held the trial. It was the court that found him guilty. And it was 
the city sheriff that carried out the sentence. 
 
Calvin was only called as an expert witness at his trial. (I will get 
the citation for his testimony later) Calvin was called to testify 
about what constitutes heresy from a biblical perspective. Calvin was 
not even a voting member of the magisterial. 
 
Go back to quoting scripture. Maybe you'll find one that applies to 
you. 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: nielsen at uidaho.edu 
To: heirdoug at netscape.net; sslund at adelphia.net 
Cc: ngier at uidaho.edu 
Sent: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:25 AM 
Subject: Martyr 
 
Doug, 
 
Are you referring to people like the Unitarian Michael Servetus, who 
was barbecued alive by the Trinitarian John Calvin? 
 
Ralph 
 
[Vision2020] Quote of Interest 
 
heirdoug at netscape.net heirdoug at netscape.net 
Tue Nov 21 07:28:42 PST 2006 
 
Mrs. Lund, 
 
You forget that it also is a term of contempt for a juvenile first form 
classmate, as well as, what those who hated the truth piled at the 
martyr's feet just before they burned them at the stake! 
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