[Vision2020] Guests or Tenants?

g. crabtree jampot at adelphia.net
Mon Nov 6 10:14:58 PST 2006


Joe asks...

Isn't Keely talking about folks who are visiting for a month or so, not 
folks who are intending to attend and then graduate from some local 
four-year school?

And I reply that I'm sure that she is. The fact that you "would not classify 
putting someone up for a month or so as housing or feeding someone "for 
compensation on a weekly or longer basis." (a phrase that defies logic, but 
I'll assume to take your meaning) makes no difference. There is nothing in 
the city code that distinguishes between one month or four years. Any 
difference that has been discussed so far on this forum has been opinion 
based on personnel feelings, not law. I find it funny and ironic that folks 
who would use this issue to attack one group and then turn around and 
advocate the same thing, all the while claiming a difference based on some 
arbitrary duration and their subjective opinion. The fact that Mr. Courtney 
or anyone else might happen to have an opinion and elect to comment on it 
seems perfectly reasonable to me.

gc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Guests or Tenants?


> Isn't Keely talking about folks who are visiting for a month or so, not 
> folks who are intending to attend and then graduate from some local 
> four-year school? I would not classify putting someone up for a month or 
> so as housing or feeding someone "for compensation on a weekly or longer 
> basis." It doesn't say housing or feeding "for a week or more."
>
> --
> Joe Campbell
>
> ---- "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> =============
> For the last couple of days posting to this forum has been a bit screwy 
> from my computer. I hope this only shows up once.
>
>
> Wrong, as usual. City code quite clearly defines boarding house's as
> 12. Boarding House.
>
> A building occupied by its owner in which not more than six (6) roomers, 
> lodgersand/or boarders are housed or fed for compensation on a weekly or 
> longer basis. Ord. 2006-11, 08/07/06)With this in mind, I fail to see how 
> the situation that Ms. Mix is suggesting, and the previous boarding house 
> issue that you have decried with such vigor in the not so distant past, is 
> any different -- aside from the players, of  course. It  seems that you 
> would hold  Ms. Mix and friends to a different  standard than certain 
> "others" that you do not hold in the same high regard.  I can't for the 
> life of me see how it could be inappropriate for Dale to suggest that some 
> small measure of consistency enter into the equation.
>
> gc
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Tom Hansen
>  To: 'g. crabtree' ; 'Vision 2020'
>  Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:10 AM
>  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Guests or Tenants?
>
>
>  Applying the quotation marks (") to my statement was merely meant to 
> serve as my distinction of the two concepts, not to reflect any specific 
> legal boundary, ok?
>
>
>
>  Although the city code does not (in writing) define a "boarding house", a 
> session (not that long ago) of the city council verbally defined "boarding 
> houses".  I could dig through my repository of audio files of City Council 
> sessions, but I would consider that to be time and effort poorly spent as 
> I am certain that you can recall these sessions on your own.
>
>
>
>  And lastly, Comb-Over's inappropriateness was apparent in his implication 
> at:
>
>
>
>  "I'm sure that everyone she recommends will have their conditional use 
> permits thru the City, approved and paid for - just like every other 
> international student's host family in Moscow has."
>
>
>
>  Enough said.
>
>
>
>  Tom Hansen
>
>  Moscow, Idaho
>
>  Intolerista Sergeant-at-Arms
>
>   "Most truths are so naked that people feel sorry for them and cover them 
> up, at least a little bit."
>  - Edward R. Murrow
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  From: g. crabtree [mailto:jampot at adelphia.net]
>  Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 7:02 AM
>  To: Tom Hansen; Vision 2020
>  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Guests or Tenants?
>
>
>
>
>
>  After having glanced at the Moscow city code definition of a boarding 
> house, could you please explain how providing accommodations to guests for 
> a couple of weeks for compensation fails to meet the afore mentioned 
> definition? Just exactly where in the code does it distinguish between  a 
> "resident guest" and a "resident tenant"? And lastly, why would it be 
> "inappropriate commentary" to discuss this type of topic on Dale's 
> personal blog and yet be just ducky for you to do the same on your own web 
> site, to which you thoughtfully provided a link, not to mention here on 
> the V?
>
>
>
>  gc
>
> 




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