[Vision2020] Guests or Tenants?

g. crabtree jampot at adelphia.net
Mon Nov 6 07:00:50 PST 2006


J,

Since you prefer to reply to my private playful poke with a display of drama 
set in a public forum, here goes. My apologies to the rest of the V.

A. It's just an expression. Goodness knows I'm as familiar with you as I 
would ever want to be, if not more so.Obviously, in your case, "respect" 
will never be a pressing concern.

B. I would have thought that after waving me down in the street to deliver a 
foam flecked, vein bulging, heavily gesticulated rant, we could consider 
ourselves introduced. Next time you stop me to "chat" I'll make a point of 
performing the formal and official "how d' do's" and pleased ta meetcha's. 
(although if you remember back to a city council meeting a year or so ago, 
on a topic of mutual interest, we already enacted that little ritual)

C. Since your heartfelt missive came as a reply to a post I had made to 
hansen, I guess I leapt to a silly and erroneous conclusion. Imagine the 
huge sigh of relief collectively heaved by the greater Crabtree clan. We can 
now dry our eye's and get on with our wretched little lives.

Thanks for thinking of me,
gc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Guests or Tenants?


> Mr. Crabtree;
>
> A.  I ain't your baby!  (God! Thank you.)  So, as in ToKnee's case, please
> be respectful enough to refrain from that type of familiarity.
> B.  Since I have never met you...don't have a clue what you are talking
> about.
> C.  Since my e-mail below on this issue was not ADDRESSED to you, getting 
> a
> mite touchy, doncha think?  It was a general "you" which most people 
> seemed
> to understand as I was talking ABOUT KIRKERS and Dale Courtney.
>
> Hope you have a GREAT week, Mr. Crabtree.
>
> J  :]
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>>To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Guests or Tenants?
>>Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 19:13:01 -0800
>>
>>"If you had a cousin (shudder to think there are more of you out 
>>there)..."
>>
>>Actually Jackie, I have quite a few cousins and other relatives who live 
>>in
>>the area but I'm not quite so dense as to think that this was your 
>>foremost
>>concern. If you continue to hurl gratuitous insults my way I am going to
>>have to give serious consideration to removing you from my Christmas card
>>list. (you have already been nixed from the 'send a fruitcake' roster for
>>what should be obvious reasons) Considering the way we parted from our 
>>last
>>face to face encounter, I'd say you're skating on mighty thin ice already,
>>baby.
>>
>>gc
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:36 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Guests or Tenants?
>>
>>
>>>First of all, the "compensation" that Miss Keely talks about is in the
>>>form
>>>of help paying for whatever food the people may need/want while staying
>>>with
>>>the family.  It is NOT payment for use of a room or for use of the house.
>>>That is provided along with rides to the events, schools, etc. that the
>>>people may need.
>>>
>>>If you had a cousin (shudder to think there are more of you out there) 
>>>who
>>>came to stay with you for a couple of weeks, it is no DOUBT that you 
>>>would
>>>not only expect them to help with the food bill, but it would be needed.
>>>
>>>This in no way represents a boarding house situation - the boarding 
>>>houses
>>>that kirkers run are for profit (UNclaimed profit) and are meant to
>>>clearly
>>>be that.  The above situation is not - it is a request for help in a
>>>situation where our town has the opportunity to show people from another
>>>part of the word what America is like.
>>>
>>>Too bad the likes of Dale, etc. are willing and very able to show them 
>>>the
>>>very worst of what America offers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>J  :]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>>>>To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>, "Vision 2020"
>>>><vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Guests or Tenants?
>>>>Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 07:02:11 -0800
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>After having glanced at the Moscow city code definition of a boarding
>>>>house, could you please explain how providing accommodations to guests
>>>>for
>>>>a couple of weeks for compensation fails to meet the afore mentioned
>>>>definition? Just exactly where in the code does it distinguish between 
>>>>a
>>>>"resident guest" and a "resident tenant"? And lastly, why would it be
>>>>"inappropriate commentary" to discuss this type of topic on Dale's
>>>>personal
>>>>blog and yet be just ducky for you to do the same on your own web site,
>>>>to
>>>>which you thoughtfully provided a link, not to mention here on the V?
>>>>
>>>>gc
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>>>>To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 6:17 AM
>>>>Subject: [Vision2020] Guests or Tenants?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Posted at Dale "Comb-Over" Courtney's Brainless Log (BLog) at
>>>>right-mind.us
>>>> > -
>>>> >
>>>> > -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> > [Quote by Keely Emerine-Mix] "My friend, Young-mi Jin, is an English
>>>>teacher
>>>> > in South Korea who got her master's at UI in 2005. She is bringing a
>>>>group
>>>> > of Korean students to Moscow in December and January to study and is
>>>>looking
>>>> > for homes for the kids (and her) to stay in for that time. She's 
>>>> > asked
>>>>me to
>>>> > forward her email address [deleted] to all of you, and if you're
>>>>interested
>>>> > in hosting for a few weeks, with compensation, please email her."
>>>> >
>>>> > My, my. I sure hope that keely isn't looking for Venom2020 members to
>>>> > illegally board those kids. And to be compensated for it. Gasp!
>>>> >
>>>> > Horrors! Think of it! Offering hospitality and being told that it's
>>>>illegal.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm sure that everyone she recommends will have their conditional use
>>>> > permits thru the City, approved and paid for - just like every other
>>>> > international student's host family in Moscow has.
>>>> >
>>>> > Published Friday, November 03, 2006 4:55 PM by Right-Mind
>>>> >
>>>> > [Comments]
>>>> >
>>>> > # Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>>> >
>>>> > Now this is a really funny situation.  I am sure that Not On The >
>>>>Palouse
>>>> > will immediately cite the proper city rules as to why Keely's request
>>>> > is
>>>> > A-OK.  What a laugh.  Perhaps these students will rent several of the
>>>>vacant
>>>> > apartments here in town instead of boarding with families.  That 
>>>> > would
>>>>help
>>>> > the booming Moscow economy some wouldn't it?
>>>> >
>>>> > Friday, November 03, 2006 7:04 PM by Dave
>>>> >
>>>> > -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> > I could go into detail explaining the differences between a
>>>>"resident's
>>>> > guest" and a "resident tenant" having had guests at my abode, but 
>>>> > then
>>>> > I
>>>> > would have to re-repost the Moscow City Zoning Code as it pertains to
>>>> > boarding houses (and the city's definition of "Boarding Houses") and
>>>>further
>>>> > explain it in terms understandable to the infants at our local 
>>>> > sandbox
>>>> > (pronounced "Anselm Clubhouse").  That is simply not necessary and
>>>>what
>>>> > Comb-Over has posted to his BLog is purely inappropriate.
>>>> >
>>>> > To put it simply, there is considerable difference between providing
>>>> > quarters to a friend for a couple weeks and collecting rent from >
>>>>several
>>>> > tenants for several years as reflected at:
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.tomandrodna.com/Wilsonville/Address_List.pdf
>>>> >
>>>> > If Comb-Over feels he possesses sufficient quantity of the proper
>>>>genetalia,
>>>> > he can file a complaint with the city.  Otherwise, I suggest that he
>>>>cease
>>>> > making such inappropriate commentary and restrict such behavior to 
>>>> > the
>>>> > aforementioned sandbox.
>>>> >
>>>> > Tom Hansen
>>>> > Moscow, Idaho
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > *****************************************************************
>>>> >
>>>> > "Sins can be committed in ignorance, and the fact that they were
>>>>committed
>>>> > in ignorance doesn't cause the sin to just disappear . . . "
>>>> >
>>>> > - Princess Sushitushi (September 10, 2006)
>>>> >
>>>> > *****************************************************************
>>>> >
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