[Vision2020] Active Troops by and large, support Bush....

[g. crabtree]

My first attempt at sending this seems to have disappeared down the electron 
pipe. Sorry if it shows up twice.


So instead of "a comparable list full of celebrity liberals who get as much
media exposure" that you originally asked for, the list must now be
comprised of celebrity liberals who have radio talk shows? And you still
claim that you're not modifying the parameters? And I'm the one who's being
"atypically hypocritical?" Well, I really don't think that it will cut any 
ice
with you and I really didn't want to have to continue to play this silly 
game
but here goes. Let's see how this list fails to measure up.

Terry Gross
Diane Rehm
Al Franken
Randi Rhoades
Thom Hartmann
Rachel Maddow
Steve Earle
Mike Newcomb
Bernie Ward
Mike Webb
Guy James
Laura Flanders
Ray Taliaferro
Niel Rogers
Lynn Cullen
Roxanne Walker

I could go on. Now, let me anticipate your next objection. 'Well jeepers
Gary, these folks don't have anything like the audience or the notoriety of
the people I had on my list.' To that I can only say small wonder. (and
thank goodness)

gc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
Cc: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Active Troops by and large, support Bush....


> On 11/3/06, g. crabtree <jampot at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>> Changing the parameters to bolster your view point will always result in 
>> a favorable
>> outcome for your side of the discussion. Unfortunately, it's a fairly 
>> weak
>> and transparent tactic.
>
> I didn't change the parameters, but you did.  My original list was
> comprised only of individuals who are known largely (and in some cases
> solely) because of their shrill conservatism.  All of them, Ann
> Coulter excepted, are conservative radio talk show hosts.  Further, I
> didn't expand my list, I merely demonstrated the consequences if I
> followed your model of adjusting the parameters to bolster your side
> of the discussion.
>
> You are better than this, Gary.  You are one of the few conservatives
> on this list who I actually respect, even while I disagree with you.
> To accuse me of using a tactic that you have just employed seems
> atypically hypocritical.
>
> -- 
> "Intolerance betrays want of faith in one's cause." -- Mahatma Gandhi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
Cc: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Active Troops by and large, support Bush....


> On 11/3/06, g. crabtree <jampot at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>> Changing the parameters to bolster your view point will always result in 
>> a favorable
>> outcome for your side of the discussion. Unfortunately, it's a fairly 
>> weak
>> and transparent tactic.
>
> I didn't change the parameters, but you did.  My original list was
> comprised only of individuals who are known largely (and in some cases
> solely) because of their shrill conservatism.  All of them, Ann
> Coulter excepted, are conservative radio talk show hosts.  Further, I
> didn't expand my list, I merely demonstrated the consequences if I
> followed your model of adjusting the parameters to bolster your side
> of the discussion.
>
> You are better than this, Gary.  You are one of the few conservatives
> on this list who I actually respect, even while I disagree with you.
> To accuse me of using a tactic that you have just employed seems
> atypically hypocritical.
>
> -- 
> "Intolerance betrays want of faith in one's cause." -- Mahatma Gandhi
>