[Vision2020] Iraq's My Lai Massacre

Tue May 30 07:51:01 PDT 2006

Here's some info, Dick, that you might want to consider:

The reason no one is "fooled" into thinking Nick is a Christian is that he's 
been as open as anyone can be about his non-Christian beliefs.  That doesn't 
make him a bad person.  It simply makes him someone who holds to religious 
views that are different from yours.  Or mine, for that matter.

But what most people seem capable of understanding is that Nick is a man of 
insight and
compassion, and his vehement opposition to the war in Iraq is not the same 
thing as personal animus toward our troops.  On the contrary -- he's stated 
that we have the highest-quality armed forces in the world and has defended 
the integrity of our men and women serving in Iraq.  I think the five bucks 
he gave to the gentleman from the VFW is a symbol of the esteem with which 
he holds our servicemen and women.  That you hold even that in contempt is, 
well, contemptible.

Your reasonably gracious response to J Ford yesterday gave me hope that you 
had toned down your rhetoric a little bit, but I can see that you're just as 
combative as ever.  But, as every good soldier knows, you ought to know your 
target before you fire.

keely

From: "rvrcowboy" <rvrcowboy at clearwire.net>
To: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>, <nickgier at adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Iraq's My Lai Massacre
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 00:04:36 -0700

Actually, Mr. Gier, I am not really all that interested in reading the
retirement letters written by you students.  I am only interested in your
obvious bias in the information you present concerning our troops.  You are
such a phony when you present yourself as a person who cares about them.
Big deal, "gave the VFW fellow $5 and thanked him for his service to our
country", how very noble of you, while you post posionous accusations on
this forum about our present soldiers, still in harms way.

You may have fooled your students into thinking you are a Christian but you
haven't fooled anyone else about it.  I said it before and I will say it
again... You are an ass.

Dick Sherwin
----- Original Message -----
From: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 11:07 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Iraq's My Lai Massacre

 > Greetings:
 >
 > Now that I'm retired and my brain is going sof, it's good to now that
there is someone in Lewiston to keep track of my motivations and to clarify
my intentions for me and others on this list.  This person is such a seer
that he thinks he knows what went on in my classrooms.
 >
 > On Saturday as I went in to buy groceries for the Sunday dinner I
prepared, I gave the VFW fellow $5 and thanked him for his service to our
country.  Early on the in the debate about the war, I made it clear that
with few exceptions our troops were the best trained in the world.  It just
tried to find the letter to Daily News in which I said that, but I could not
find it in my "out" file.
 >
 > The worst possible decision a president can make is to put the best 
troops
in the world in countries where we have no right to be. The Johnson
administration placed U. S. troops on the losing side of a civil war in
Vietnam, and then Nixon intervened on the side of the right wingers in
Cambodia led right into the Killing Fields.
 >
 > Our fine soldiers are now in a country in which it is very clear that we
are not welcome.  I'm not sure how I would react if I find my buddies being
killed left and right by the people that we are supposed to liberate.  I
don't blame the troops, I blame the Bush administration for replaying
Vietnam in the Middle East. These are wasted lives.  Their tragic sacrifice
has made us less free and less secure.
 >
 > If my Lewiston "minder" is interested, I would like to share with him 
some
retirement letters my students wrote on my behalf.  It would give a
different view of what he thinks went on my classes.  My favorite memory are
the students in my philosophy of religion class who thought I was a
Christian.
 >
 > Nick Gier
 >
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