[Vision2020] Real men in the real world

[Joan Opyr]

What do I know about real men, Ed?  I know that they are neither 
terrified of nor threatened by women.  I know that they are not empty 
blowhards who lash out at strangers in cyberspace but cower before real 
people in public.  I know that real men are not afraid to display grief 
or affection because they know the difference between having a rich and 
full emotional life and what you so revealing term "weakness."  I live 
with a real man; I grew up with real men; I appreciate real men.  
You're not a real man, Ed.  You're not a man at all.  You're an 
overgrown boy.  You demonstrate this ten times a day on Vision 2020 
(and God knows where else).  You offer a pitiful spectacle of arrested 
development.  I don't care how old you are; you have some serious 
growing up to do.  Is it too late for you to enlist in, say, the Eagle 
Scouts?

You'd rather a woman bore your children?  Poor woman.  Poor children.  
Poor us.  You'd rather a man stood alongside you in battle?  For 
heaven's sake, what do you know of battle?  My father-in-law did two 
tours of duty in Vietnam.  He fought the NVA in 1967 during the Tet 
Offensive.  Did that make him a real man?  No.  He was a man before he 
left, and he was a man when he came back.  You won't catch him bragging 
about what he did in 'Nam.  That sort of crap makes him sick -- he says 
the braggers all sat in the rear on the gear.  I can shoot the wings 
off a fly, Ed, and I'd be willing to bet that I could throw you flat on 
your back two out of three for a submission.  But none of that really 
matters, does it?  You like your world black and white, literally.  You 
don't deal well with complexity.  It scares you.  It makes you too 
aware of your shortcomings.  Better to stay in the box with the packing 
peanuts, safe and sound from the unpleasant drops and those 
nerve-wracking bumps.

You don't know where I've been or what I've done, Ed.  You don't know 
what any woman on this list has endured, survived, or triumphed over.  
You don't know how tough we are or how much we appreciate the strong 
men who grace our lives.  I wish I could believe that you had graced 
some woman's life, or that you might grow enough in the future to make 
yourself of use to some woman somewhere before you shuffle off this 
mortal coil.  But I feel very cynical about your prospects.  Live and 
learn?  You have to live well, and you have to be willing to learn.  
You've shut your ears to what just over 50% of the population has to 
teach you.  You're going nowhere, Eddie.  Nowhere fast.

Happy Mother's Day.

Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
www.joanopyr.com

"More man than you'll ever be; more woman than you'll ever get."

On May 14, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Ed wrote:

> Wow!
>  
> Joan likes men qua men. What the devil does she know about a real man? 
> And, why do I always seem to get dragged into other people arguments? 
> True as charged though; there is a shortage of real men (more 
> alarmingly, a shortage of Euro-American males). Men are increasingly 
> being cowed by radical feminists—without putting up so mach as a 
> fight. These whacko feminists are masculinizing the women and 
> feminizing the men.  Is a true equal society one in which gender lines 
> are blurred? Hardly.. We are in trouble, folks. Some semblance of 
> traditional order must be restored, one where a difference in sexes 
> and their respective roles are valued, celebrated, and understood. 
> Women shouldn't hold authoritative places within society; they are the 
> weak sex. True as well, men have an obligation to watch out for their 
> female counterparts-- protect and provide for them. Men and women are 
> different, biologically, physiologically, emotionally, etc...and each 
> have equally important roles in society. However, these roles are 
> different. I would rather a woman have my baby; but, then again, I'd 
> prefer a man alongside me in battle. The demasculinization of men, in 
> my opinion, is another reason for our Nation losing the will to 
> protect itself. Men used to be masculine; now they’re sniveling 
> crybabies that get their eyebrows waxed and nails done; they’re 
> metro-sexuals, uber-sexuals, homosexuals, bisexuals, transsexuals, 
> etc… Men cry? What? I haven’t cried in 34 years. It’s a sign of 
> weakness. Point is, men aren’t what they used to be…and this is a 
> detriment to our society.
>  
> Speaking of women...oh, but we weren't..., I like real women, not 
> trash mouthed, sailor-talking, machete-tongued, feminazis.
>  
> Finally, a Letterman (I’m beginning to abhor that man) monologue joke 
> from the 80’s, I think:
> “A woman’s place is the home…and she should go there after she gets 
> off work.”  Funny, a glib recitation of that very joke got me in hot 
> water at a local university not long ago...
>  
>  --ECS
>  
> P.s. there potentially could be a time and place for a real man to cry…
>  
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