[Vision2020] Sure signs of a feminist

Sun May 14 09:06:24 PDT 2006

Sure signs of a feminist

1) Signs her name in lowercase
2) Uses an initial only when signing her name

Note: many other clues exist, and are readily available to the sentient

--Ed
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: keely emerinemix 
  To: joanopyr at moscow.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 8:31 AM
  Subject: [Spam] Re: [Vision2020] Joan: not at all dangerous

  I read this after I read Ed's screed on "real men" and "real women."  I was 
  temted to respond to Ed, who told us that real women know they should not 
  hold positions of authority, that real men must protect them and never cry 
  -- a sign of weakness, Ed blusters.  I was appropriately revulsed, angry, 
  and saddened.

  Then I read this.  I know that it will feed Ed's ravenous vitriol, and that 
  my own husband might be caught in the smorgasbord.  But what Joan wrote fed 
  me, too, albeit in different ways.  Her analysis of Kirk "masculinity" 
  strikes me as right on; I wish I could take credit for it.  They are future 
  men in every sense, although I suppose that statement -- "future men" -- 
  expresses certainty in what I can only hope for them -- the attainment of 
  full, mature, Christian masculinity.  It will look absolutely nothing like 
  Ed, or ToeKnee, or Doug Farris/Wilson/Jones, and a great deal like the 
  historical Jesus.

  You know -- the one who wept, who upheld and respected and encouraged women 
  as equals, and who saved his verbal fire for the powerful, pompous and 
  privileged.  Sorry, Ed.  If your Savior is a misanthropic blowhard, you've 
  got the wrong one.

  For those of you interested in Biblical feminism, even if just to see if 
  such a thing exists, check out Christians for Biblical Equality at cbe.org.  
  As we CBE'ers say, ". . . hey, Jesus started it!"

  Yours in radical equality between the sexes,

  keely

  From: Joan Opyr <joanopyr at moscow.com>
  To: Vision2020 Moscow <vision2020 at moscow.com>
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joan: not at all dangerous
  Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:52:49 -0700

  On May 13, 2006, at 6:53 AM, keely emerinemix wrote:

  >Perhaps you noticed, Tony, that Joan's threat was conditioned on Heirdoug's 
  >ever referring to her children in any way in any public forum, a privilege 
  >he most certainly does not have and yet one he has a tendency to assume.   
  >Your concern is for protecting Doug's genitals; hers is for protecting her 
  >children.  Let's hope they're both safe so you can get back to obsessing 
  >about whatever it is that gets you going today.
  >
  >By the way, Joan is not "man-hating."  She's quite fond of my husband, and 
  >I applaud any friendship between my man and anyone who can discuss with him 
  >the peculiar joys of the Honda 70 series trail bike, which relieves me from 
  >ever having to repeat the embarrassment of assuming that the "70" refers to 
  >the year in which it was built.
  >
  >Thank you, Joan.  And Tony, it's time to go wipe the foam from your mouth . 
  >. .
  >
  >keely

  Thank you, Keely and Chasuk, for your eloquent defenses.  As you can 
  imagine, I don't give rat's fanny what Tony Simpson thinks; I care very much 
  what you do.  I only want to add a couple of observations to what you've 
  already said.  First and most important, you will note that I never make 
  derogatory statements about the wives or children of Doug Farris, Dale 
  Courtney, or Ed Cooper Swan.  They are not part of our "conversations."  I 
  find such references to my own minor children deeply offensive.  DF, DC, and 
  ECS know this, of course, but they have no shame -- a consequence, I think, 
  of their collective lack of maturity.

  Doug Wilson has written a book called 'Future Men.'  Perhaps some of you are 
  familiar with it?  I've come to believe that there's an unintended double 
  entendre in that title.  In my lengthy experience with the male members of 
  the Kirk, all of the men are future men.  There's a sad lack of men, real 
  adult men, in the here and now.  In the rarified atmosphere Wilson's 
  Neverland, men play-act at being Oxford dons, or seminary students, or 
  professors, poets, philosophers, theologians, great writers and great 
  thinkers and, worst of all, jolly Victorian patriarchs.  They lay claim to 
  authority and status, respect and power that they have not earned and do not 
  deserve.  They lay claim to omniscience.  There is nothing that they do not 
  pretend to know and know well, and they speak with all the blustering 
  inerrancy of the precocious 14-year old.  Back when Doug Wilson started 
  Logos School, he advertised a full classical curriculum.  At the time, he 
  was taking Latin 101 at the University of Idaho.  This qualified him to 
  teach Latin?  Of course!  Because Doug wanted to teach Latin, by God, he was 
  qualified to teach Latin.  We should consider ourselves lucky he didn't 
  settle on brain surgery.  Or amateur gynecology.

  I like men qua men; I always have.  But when I say that, I mean that I like 
  grown-up men.  I like men who are secure in themselves; men who are secure 
  in the knowledge that recognizing women as equals is not a threat to their 
  own masculinity.  Being a feminist is not about hating men; it's about 
  respecting women.  Being a lesbian is not about hating men; it's about 
  preferring women as sexual and life partners.  I count among my closest 
  friends equal numbers of men and women.  I love my father-in-law, Don 
  Huskey.  He has taught me more about what it means to be a strong man and a 
  good parent than I could fit into a ten-volume encyclopedia.  He's a former 
  Marine Corps captain and the first male feminist I ever had the privilege of 
  meeting.  (I've met many more since.)  My brothers-in-law Johnny, Micah, and 
  Lew are fine men, terrific fathers, and close friends.  I enjoy their 
  company.  We share the same interests and hobbies.  (And, yes, we all laugh 
  at fart jokes).

  Keely's husband, Jeff, is a kind and gentle man with tremendous inner 
  strength.  It emanates from him in waves.  I wouldn't hesitate to call on 
  him in times of trouble.  I have remained very close to my high school 
  "boyfriends," Brian and Dave and Boris.  Brother Carl Westberg is the 
  brother I never had.  I don't hesitate to say that I adore him, or that he 
  is one of the finest men I have ever known.  It is my honor to call him 
  friend.  (Because he's Scandinavian, he'll be embarrassed to death when he 
  reads this.  Sorry, Carl, but it's the truth.  You are a stellar man.)

  The epigram at the beginning of my book is an old saying of my 
  grandfather's:  Everything turns from sugar to shit.  I can't express what 
  my grandfather mean to me.  He and I spent thirty-six years locked together 
  in a mutual admiration society.  I thought he was the end-all, be-all, and 
  he thought I was the bee's knees.  It was Ranny Watkins who taught me to 
  stand up to bullies; to protect my children; and to fight like hell for 
  them.  I make no apologies for that.  When I say to Doug Farris, "You may go 
  this far but no farther," I mean it.  His dismemberment may only be 
  figurative; it will be verbal, not literal.  But it will be a dismemberment. 
    I have a tongue like a machete and the will to use it.  Do not tempt me.

  A few days ago, I emailed Doug Farris privately.  In light of Tony's 
  juvenile frothing, I will now share that email with the list.  You'll find 
  it below my signature.  Make of it what you will.  It sums up my sentiments 
  exactly.

  Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
  www.joanopyr.com

  From: Joan Opyr
  To: Doug Farris
  Subject: The root of your bitterness

  What kids, Doug?  The kids I love.  The kids I care for.  The kids for whom 
  I've been saving for college since the day they were born.  The kids who 
  know me as a devoted stay-at-home mom.  The children of my heart and my 
  soul.  There's more to family than biology, Doug.  Much, much more.  I'm 
  sorry that you seem incapable of understanding that.  I'm sorry that you 
  find it appropriate or even funny to be cruel to minor children who have 
  never and would never do you or your children any harm.  I'm sorry you have 
  so little in common with the Christ you say you worship.

  I'm going to leave you alone now, Doug.  In truth, I feel sorry for you.  
  Your world is so sadly small and circumscribed.  You seem to know nothing of 
  charity, of generosity, or of kindness.  You seem to know nothing of love.  
  You must feel so insecure, so alone, and so fundamentally empty.  Kicking 
  you is like kicking the air.  You're a high wind with nothing to blow.

  I'm doing you a mitzvah, Doug.  I'm forgiving you.  And now, I'll forget 
  you.

  Shalom,
  Joan

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