[Vision2020] Wal-Mart to Hire up to 150,000
g. crabtree
jampot at adelphia.net
Sat Mar 25 10:32:55 PST 2006
Part of
> their strategy locally and nationally has also been to drive out
> competition
> with low prices, then gradually increase their prices (and profit margins)
> in those areas where they think competition has been weakened.
Art, is there any chance that you would be willing to provide a list of the
"compitition" that Wal-Mart "drove out?"
gc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wal-Mart to Hire up to 150,000
> Matt Decker asks:
>
> "What is a Super Wal-Mart? I think we have talked about a grocery store,
> gas
> station, tire shop, and the regular Wal-Mart. Is there anything else?"
>
>
> Good question.
>
> It would be interesting to find out exactly what the SWM would be offering
> if it initially opens. Perhaps Matt you or someone else could find out
> and
> tell V 2020 and the local media (who seem always to be behind on this
> issue
> [and others]).
>
> Wal-Mart is a very smart marketing and sales organization. They (and
> other
> big box stores) keep changing what they carry based in part on what sells,
> the profit margin of what sells, cooperative advertising agreements, and
> other factors. What they offer initially will change then as they gain
> experience with the area market.
>
> However, your question is good. If it is known what they are going to
> carry
> initially, their impact on local merchants, especially those who are
> generous in their support of local organizations, care be more clearly
> estimated.
>
> Perhaps then Matt, you (or some interested party) can the find answers to
> your question.
>
> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
> deco at moscow.com
>
>
> PS: Here is another matter, Matt (no alliteration intended): When the
> present local Wal-Mart first opened, they were the price leader on many
> types of products. Not anymore. After basically dumping for a period of
> time and inculcating by practice the "We are the lowest priced, most
> convenient store" mantra in area shoppers, the prices at the local
> Wal-Mart
> have crept up disproportionately so that many products are available at
> the
> same or lower prices elsewhere in Moscow. While there are some areas
> where
> Wal-Mart is still the price leader, in many areas they are not. Part of
> their strategy locally and nationally has also been to drive out
> competition
> with low prices, then gradually increase their prices (and profit margins)
> in those areas where they think competition has been weakened.
>
> Perhaps, Matt in this regard you remember the lawsuit over Wal-Mart's
> previous motto: "Always the low price." They were sued over the
> truthfulness of that motto. They lost. Now they have an ambiguous,
> basically meaningless motto about low prices.
>
> Rose Huskey posted several weeks ago about the experience of the company
> that makes Snapper lawnmowers. Wal-Mart wanted that company to value
> engineer their products (read: offer a cheaper product of a lesser quality
> made by someone else but with the Snapper label). Snapper refused. Many
> other companies don't, hence don't expect some of the products offered at
> Wal-Mart to be the same quality as what appears to be the same product
> with
> the same packaging offered at other area stores. Wal-Mart is not the only
> store that does this, but they seem to be the most aggressive about it.
>
> This post is not intended to be an argument for or against a SWM, but is a
> suggestion that not all the important facts are on the table yet.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
> To: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wal-Mart to Hire up to 150,000
>
>
>> Matt Decker asks:
>>
>> "What is a Super Wal-Mart? I think we have talked about a grocery store,
>> gas station, tire shop, and the regular Wal-Mart. Is there anything
>> else?"
>>
>>
>> Good question.
>>
>> It would be interesting to find out exactly what the SWM would be
>> offering if it initially opens. Perhaps Matt you or someone else could
>> find out and tell V 2020 and the local media (who seem always to be
>> behind on this issue [and others]).
>>
>> Wal-Mart is a very smart marketing and sales organization. They (and
>> other big box stores) keep changing what they carry based in part on what
>> sells, the profit margin of what sells, cooperative advertising
>> agreements, and other factors. What they offer initially will change
>> then as they gain experience with the area market.
>>
>> However, your question is good. If it is known what they are going to
>> carry initially, their impact on local merchants, especially those who
>> are generous in their support of local organizations, care be more
>> clearly estimated.
>>
>> Perhaps then Matt, you (or some interested party) can the find answers to
>> your question.
>>
>> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>> deco at moscow.com
>>
>>
>> PS: Here is another matter, Matt (no alliteration intended): When the
>> present local Wal-Mart first opened, they were the price leader on many
>> types of products. Not anymore. After basically dumping for a period of
>> time and inculcating by practice the "We are the lowest priced, most
>> convenient store" mantra in area shoppers, the prices at the local
>> Wal-Mart have crept up disproportionately so that many products are
>> available at the same or lower prices elsewhere in Moscow. While there
>> are some areas where Wal-Mart is still the price leader, in many areas
>> they are not. Part of their strategy locally and nationally has also
>> been to drive out competition with low prices, then gradually increase
>> their prices (and profit margins) in those areas where they think
>> competition has been weakened.
>>
>> Perhaps, Matt in this regard you remember the lawsuit over Wal-Mart's
>> previous motto: "Always the low price." They were sued over the
>> truthfulness of that motto. They lost. Now they have an ambiguous,
>> basically meaningless motto about low prices.
>>
>> Rose Huskey posted several weeks ago about the experience of the company
>> that makes Snapper lawnmowers. Wal-Mart wanted that company to value
>> engineer their products (read: offer a cheaper product of a lesser
>> quality made by someone else but with the Snapper label). Snapper
>> refused. Many other companies don't, hence don't expect some of the
>> products offered at Wal-Mart to be the same quality as what appears to be
>> the same product with the same packaging offered at other area stores.
>> Wal-Mart is not the only store that does this, but they seem to be the
>> most aggressive about it.
>>
>> This post is not intended to be an argument for or against a SWM, but is
>> a suggestion that not all the important facts are on the table yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
>> To: <joekc at adelphia.net>; <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:31 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Wal-Mart to Hire up to 150,000
>>
>>
>>> Question for all,
>>>
>>> What is a Super Wal mart? I think we have talked about a Grocery store,
>>> gas station, tire shop, and the regular walmart. Is there anything else?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>>From: joekc at adelphia.net
>>>>To: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>>>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Wal-Mart to Hire up to 150,000
>>>>Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 1:14:54 -0500
>>>>
>>>> Dear Donovan,
>>>>
>>>>I’m not against creating jobs for people. Nor do I think it would ruin
>>>>the town. I said I grew up poor but maybe you don’t believe me. If I
>>>>thought that the net gain in jobs given a SWM would be greater than the
>>>>net loss, then I might be for it. But I think that SWM will take away as
>>>>many job opportunities as it provides. We don’t need more part-time
>>>>jobs with poor health benefits. What we need is affordable wages offered
>>>>by people who care about our community.
>>>>
>>>>For every part-time job that SWM offers, another part-time job is needed
>>>>in order for the kinds of families that you care about to be able to
>>>>find decent housing in this town. With two SWMs in the area, quite a few
>>>>of the jobs that people currently have will soon be unavailable. If you
>>>>have some new math that convinces me that SWM will not hurt businesses
>>>>that are already here, and take away jobs that people already have,
>>>>I’d love to see it. Otherwise, the money needed to sustain two SWMs in
>>>>the Palouse means less money for existing businesses, places owned by
>>>>people who have a stake in the community where they LIVE.
>>>>
>>>>You are correct about one thing: Moscow is a great community because of
>>>>the people who live here, not because of the buildings. Thus, SWM
>>>>can’t make Moscow a better place than it already is. However, Moscow
>>>>is different not because it is like every place else. Making it like all
>>>>the other places won’t help to keep what it already has going for it.
>>>>We don’t need SWM to be a better community. What we need are new ideas
>>>>that allow us to keep what we already have. What is wrong with trying to
>>>>think about how to keep what we already have while trying to make it all
>>>>better? How can SWM possibly achieve that goal? What does it have to
>>>>offer that we don’t already have?
>>>>
>>>>Best, Joe
>>>>
>>>> - - - - D o n o v a n A r n o l d < d o n o v a n j a r n o l d
>>>> 2 0 0 5 @ y a h o o . c o m > w r o t e :
>>>>
>>>> = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>>>> " I f y o u c h o o s e U I o v e r L C S C b e c a u s e
>>>> o f t h e t o w n , h o w i s t u r n i n g M o s c o w
>>>> i n t o L e w i s t o n g o i n g t o h e l p o u r c h a n
>>>> c e s o f r e c r u i t i n g i n t e r e s t i n g s t u d e
>>>> n t s l i k e y o u r s e l f a t U I ? W o u l d n ' t w e
>>>> b e b e t t e r o f f e n s u r i n g t h a t M o s c o w
>>>> k e p t i t s d i s t i n c t i v e c h a r a c t e r ? "
>>>>
>>>> W e l l J o e , I d o n o t t h i n k t h a t c r e
>>>> a t i n g j o b s f o r a l l p e o p l e , n o t j u s t
>>>> t h e w e l l e d u c a t e d a n d e x p e r i e n c e d ,
>>>> w i l l n o t d e s t r o y t h i s t o w n . I t h i n k
>>>> i t j u s t m a k e s i t m o r e a f f o r d a b l e t
>>>> o t h e g e n e r a t i o n s o f f a m i l i e s t h a t h a v
>>>> e b e e n i n M o s c o w a n d L a t a h f o r s o l o n
>>>> g . I t h i n k w h a t m a k e s M o s c o w u n i q u e i
>>>> s t h a t i t i s a c o l l e g e t o w n , i t s h i s t
>>>> o r y , t h e w e a t h e r , t h e l o c a t i o n a n d g
>>>> e o g r a p h y , b u t m o r e i m p o r t a n t l y , i t i
>>>> s t h e p e o p l e t h a t m a k e M o s c o w t h e t o w n
>>>> t h a t i t i s , n o t t h e b u i l d i n g s . A W a l -
>>>> M a r t t u r n i n g s !
>>>> u p e r W a l - M a r t d o e s n ' t n o t c h a n g e t
>>>> h a t , i t j u s t h e l p s p e o p l e t h a t a r e c
>>>> o l l e g e s t u d e n t s t o k e e p c o m i n g h e r e
>>>> , a n d c o l l e g e s t u d e n t s a r e t h e b r e a d
>>>> a n d b u t t e r f o r t h i s t o w n .
>>>>
>>>> T a k e C a r e ,
>>>>
>>>> _ D J A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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