[Vision2020] Wal-Mart to Hire up to 150,000

g. crabtree jampot at adelphia.net
Sat Mar 25 10:32:55 PST 2006


Part of
> their strategy locally and nationally has also been to drive out 
> competition
> with low prices, then gradually increase their prices (and profit margins)
> in those areas where they think competition has been weakened.

Art, is there any chance that you would be willing to provide a list of the 
"compitition" that Wal-Mart "drove out?"

gc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wal-Mart to Hire up to 150,000


> Matt Decker asks:
>
> "What is a Super Wal-Mart? I think we have talked about a grocery store, 
> gas
> station, tire shop, and the regular Wal-Mart. Is there anything else?"
>
>
> Good question.
>
> It would be interesting to find out exactly what the SWM would be offering
> if it initially opens.  Perhaps Matt you or someone else could find out 
> and
> tell V 2020 and the local media (who seem always to be behind on this 
> issue
> [and others]).
>
> Wal-Mart is a very smart marketing and sales organization.  They (and 
> other
> big box stores) keep changing what they carry based in part on what sells,
> the profit margin of what sells, cooperative advertising agreements, and
> other factors.  What they offer initially will change then as they gain
> experience with the area market.
>
> However, your question is good.  If it is known what they are going to 
> carry
> initially, their impact on local merchants, especially those who are
> generous in their support of local organizations, care be more clearly
> estimated.
>
> Perhaps then Matt, you (or some interested party) can the find answers to
> your question.
>
> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
> deco at moscow.com
>
>
> PS:  Here is another matter, Matt (no alliteration intended):  When the
> present local Wal-Mart first opened, they were the price leader on many
> types of products.  Not anymore.  After basically dumping for a period of
> time and inculcating by practice the "We are the lowest priced, most
> convenient store" mantra in area shoppers, the prices at the local 
> Wal-Mart
> have crept up disproportionately so that many products are available at 
> the
> same or lower prices elsewhere in Moscow.  While there are some areas 
> where
> Wal-Mart is still the price leader, in many areas they are not.  Part of
> their strategy locally and nationally has also been to drive out 
> competition
> with low prices, then gradually increase their prices (and profit margins)
> in those areas where they think competition has been weakened.
>
> Perhaps, Matt in this regard you remember the lawsuit over Wal-Mart's
> previous motto: "Always the low price."  They were sued over the
> truthfulness of that motto.  They lost.  Now they have an ambiguous,
> basically meaningless motto about low prices.
>
> Rose Huskey posted several weeks ago about the experience of the company
> that makes Snapper lawnmowers.  Wal-Mart wanted that company to value
> engineer their products (read: offer a cheaper product of a lesser quality
> made by someone else but with the Snapper label).  Snapper refused.  Many
> other companies don't, hence don't expect some of the products offered at
> Wal-Mart to be the same quality as what appears to be the same product 
> with
> the same packaging offered at other area stores.  Wal-Mart is not the only
> store that does this, but they seem to be the most aggressive about it.
>
> This post is not intended to be an argument for or against a SWM, but is a
> suggestion that not all the important facts are on the table yet.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
> To: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wal-Mart to Hire up to 150,000
>
>
>> Matt Decker asks:
>>
>> "What is a Super Wal-Mart? I think we have talked about a grocery store, 
>> gas station, tire shop, and the regular Wal-Mart. Is there anything 
>> else?"
>>
>>
>> Good question.
>>
>> It would be interesting to find out exactly what the SWM would be 
>> offering if it initially opens.  Perhaps Matt you or someone else could 
>> find out and tell V 2020 and the local media (who seem always to be 
>> behind on this issue [and others]).
>>
>> Wal-Mart is a very smart marketing and sales organization.  They (and 
>> other big box stores) keep changing what they carry based in part on what 
>> sells, the profit margin of what sells, cooperative advertising 
>> agreements, and other factors.  What they offer initially will change 
>> then as they gain experience with the area market.
>>
>> However, your question is good.  If it is known what they are going to 
>> carry initially, their impact on local merchants, especially those who 
>> are generous in their support of local organizations, care be more 
>> clearly estimated.
>>
>> Perhaps then Matt, you (or some interested party) can the find answers to 
>> your question.
>>
>> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>> deco at moscow.com
>>
>>
>> PS:  Here is another matter, Matt (no alliteration intended):  When the 
>> present local Wal-Mart first opened, they were the price leader on many 
>> types of products.  Not anymore.  After basically dumping for a period of 
>> time and inculcating by practice the "We are the lowest priced, most 
>> convenient store" mantra in area shoppers, the prices at the local 
>> Wal-Mart have crept up disproportionately so that many products are 
>> available at the same or lower prices elsewhere in Moscow.  While there 
>> are some areas where Wal-Mart is still the price leader, in many areas 
>> they are not.  Part of their strategy locally and nationally has also 
>> been to drive out competition with low prices, then gradually increase 
>> their prices (and profit margins) in those areas where they think 
>> competition has been weakened.
>>
>> Perhaps, Matt in this regard you remember the lawsuit over Wal-Mart's 
>> previous motto: "Always the low price."  They were sued over the 
>> truthfulness of that motto.  They lost.  Now they have an ambiguous, 
>> basically meaningless motto about low prices.
>>
>> Rose Huskey posted several weeks ago about the experience of the company 
>> that makes Snapper lawnmowers.  Wal-Mart wanted that company to value 
>> engineer their products (read: offer a cheaper product of a lesser 
>> quality made by someone else but with the Snapper label).  Snapper 
>> refused.  Many other companies don't, hence don't expect some of the 
>> products offered at Wal-Mart to be the same quality as what appears to be 
>> the same product with the same packaging offered at other area stores. 
>> Wal-Mart is not the only store that does this, but they seem to be the 
>> most aggressive about it.
>>
>> This post is not intended to be an argument for or against a SWM, but is 
>> a suggestion that not all the important facts are on the table yet.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
>> To: <joekc at adelphia.net>; <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:31 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Wal-Mart to Hire up to 150,000
>>
>>
>>> Question for all,
>>>
>>> What is a Super Wal mart? I think we have talked about a Grocery store, 
>>> gas station, tire shop, and the regular walmart. Is there anything else?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>>From: joekc at adelphia.net
>>>>To: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>>>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Wal-Mart to Hire up to 150,000
>>>>Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 1:14:54 -0500
>>>>
>>>>  Dear Donovan,
>>>>
>>>>I’m not against creating jobs for people. Nor do I think it would ruin 
>>>>the town. I said I grew up poor but maybe you don’t believe me. If I 
>>>>thought that the net gain in jobs given a SWM would be greater than the 
>>>>net loss, then I might be for it. But I think that SWM will take away as 
>>>>many job opportunities as it provides. We don’t need more part-time 
>>>>jobs with poor health benefits. What we need is affordable wages offered 
>>>>by people who care about our community.
>>>>
>>>>For every part-time job that SWM offers, another part-time job is needed 
>>>>in order for the kinds of families that you care about to be able to 
>>>>find decent housing in this town. With two SWMs in the area, quite a few 
>>>>of the jobs that people currently have will soon be unavailable. If you 
>>>>have some new math that convinces me that SWM will not hurt businesses 
>>>>that are already here, and take away jobs that people already have, 
>>>>I’d love to see it. Otherwise, the money needed to sustain two SWMs in 
>>>>the Palouse means less money for existing businesses, places owned by 
>>>>people who have a stake in the community where they LIVE.
>>>>
>>>>You are correct about one thing: Moscow is a great community because of 
>>>>the people who live here, not because of the buildings. Thus, SWM 
>>>>can’t make Moscow a better place than it already is. However, Moscow 
>>>>is different not because it is like every place else. Making it like all 
>>>>the other places won’t help to keep what it already has going for it. 
>>>>We don’t need SWM to be a better community. What we need are new ideas 
>>>>that allow us to keep what we already have. What is wrong with trying to 
>>>>think about how to keep what we already have while trying to make it all 
>>>>better? How can SWM possibly achieve that goal? What does it have to 
>>>>offer that we don’t already have?
>>>>
>>>>Best, Joe
>>>>
>>>>  - - - -   D o n o v a n   A r n o l d   < d o n o v a n j a r n o l d 
>>>> 2 0 0 5 @ y a h o o . c o m >   w r o t e :
>>>>
>>>>  = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>>>>  " I f   y o u   c h o o s e   U I   o v e r   L C S C   b e c a u s e 
>>>> o f   t h e   t o w n ,   h o w   i s   t u r n i n g   M o s c o w 
>>>> i n t o   L e w i s t o n   g o i n g   t o   h e l p   o u r   c h a n 
>>>> c e s   o f   r e c r u i t i n g   i n t e r e s t i n g     s t u d e 
>>>> n t s l i k e   y o u r s e l f   a t   U I ?   W o u l d n ' t   w e 
>>>> b e   b e t t e r   o f f   e n s u r i n g   t h a t     M o s c o w 
>>>> k e p t i t s   d i s t i n c t i v e   c h a r a c t e r ? "
>>>>
>>>>    W e l l   J o e ,   I   d o   n o t     t h i n k   t h a t   c r e 
>>>> a t i n g   j o b s   f o r   a l l   p e o p l e ,   n o t   j u s t 
>>>> t h e   w e l l   e d u c a t e d   a n d     e x p e r i e n c e d , 
>>>> w i l l   n o t   d e s t r o y   t h i s   t o w n .   I   t h i n k 
>>>> i t   j u s t   m a k e s   i t     m o r e     a f f o r d a b l e   t 
>>>> o t h e g e n e r a t i o n s   o f   f a m i l i e s   t h a t   h a v 
>>>> e b e e n   i n   M o s c o w   a n d   L a t a h   f o r   s o   l o n 
>>>> g .   I t h i n k   w h a t   m a k e s   M o s c o w   u n i q u e   i 
>>>> s t h a t     i t i s   a   c o l l e g e   t o w n ,   i t s   h i s t 
>>>> o r y , t h e   w e a t h e r ,   t h e   l o c a t i o n   a n d     g 
>>>> e o g r a p h y ,   b u t   m o r e   i m p o r t a n t l y ,   i t   i 
>>>> s t h e p e o p l e t h a t   m a k e   M o s c o w   t h e     t o w n 
>>>> t h a t i t   i s ,   n o t   t h e   b u i l d i n g s .   A   W a l - 
>>>> M a r t t u r n i n g   s !
>>>>  u p e r   W a l - M a r t     d o e s n ' t   n o t   c h a n g e   t 
>>>> h a t ,   i t   j u s t   h e l p s   p e o p l e   t h a t   a r e   c 
>>>> o l l e g e   s t u d e n t s     t o   k e e p   c o m i n g   h e r e 
>>>> , a n d   c o l l e g e   s t u d e n t s   a r e   t h e   b r e a d 
>>>> a n d b u t t e r   f o r     t h i s   t o w n .
>>>>
>>>>      T a k e   C a r e ,
>>>>
>>>>      _ D J A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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