[Vision2020] "Please sir, can I have some more?" RE: parking downtown

Sat Mar 25 00:16:55 PST 2006

"Please sir, can I have some more?"

                                     -------Charles Dickens

  How many  parking spaces does each entity downtown suppose to get? How much does  each downtown business pay into the maintenance, repair and enforcement  of parking regulations?

 I think if a downtown establishment  pays a great deal, they should get more spaces, if they pay little,  they should have fewer spaces.

 If they pay nothing, they  should not complain at all and be thankful they get free parking. Most  other businesses, ones not downtown, in our community have to pay a  fortune to make, clean, repair, and maintain their own parking spots.  If a business person is getting this service for FREE courtesy of the  Moscow taxpayer, including those that do not shop downtown, they have  no room to complain about there not being enough. 

 I say  your problem with downtown is not how little room there is for MORE  cars, it is that there are TOO MANY cars. Shut downtown off from cars,  use trolleys and shuttles around the center of town. The campus did it.  We don't need 20,000 cars and trucks zooming around a town only 2 miles  by 4 miles; it is silly and wasteful. If the city made vehicular travel  more cumbersome and public and pedestrain transportation more  accessible they would see stock in the downtown area rise. I hate  transportation downtown, you cannot access idowntown because of all the  cars and congestion. And the cars really detract from the otherwise  pleasant shopping experience downtown. Downtown was not designed to  hold all that traffic and shove cars in like sardines. It is much  easier and safer to go to the mall when downtown gets abused with that  much traffic and congestion. 

  _DJA

J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:  Good post...however, it leaves out Mr. Atwoods own words that they have 
received "signifcant numbers of applications" for attendance at NSA.  This 
coupled with the fact that NO school can stay at a small number of FTE's and 
survive their accreditation reviews IMPLIES that they will be increasing.  
Now, they are planning on expanding into other states:

NOTE:  Atwoods "State of The College" has been changed on-line, so the 
referenced above statement is no longer available.  But, it clearly was 
there in Feb, when I first made comments on it.

However, it has been replaced by this statement by Attwood:

"With the College’s remarkable success and growth in demand, and in keeping 
with our commitment to a limited enrollment model at any one location 
(keeping enrollment under 200 FTE students), New Saint Andrews is pleased to 
announce that we have begun planning for the establishment of several sister 
colleges elsewhere around the country. We should begin to see the first 
fruits of this planning, Lord willing, within the next 3-5 years."

Parking is NOT the only issue that should be focused on regarding NSA's CUP. 
  It is just another smoke-screen NSA/CC is using to confuse the real issue 
- that being, NSA intends to stay despite their illegal occupation in a 
building that is NOT zoned to house a college.

J  :]

>From: "Bill London" 
>To: 
>Subject: [Vision2020] parking downtown again
>Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:44:34 -0800
>
>Yes, again, the issue is parking in downtown Moscow and ultimately the 
>viability of downtown retail.
>
>The New St. Andrews College (NSA) PR machine has been working overtime to 
>confuse Moscow residents about the issues involved.  In a recent letter to 
>local businesses (available at 
>http://www.tomandrodna.com/NSA/hieronymus_letter.htm ), NSA claims that 
>they use "fewer parking places than the previous occupant of the building."
>
>That is incorrect and intentionally misleading.
>
>That previous occupant was Verizon (earlier GTE).  Years ago, GTE had 
>hundreds of workers at their three buildings (on Howard Street by the 
>American Legion Cabin, on E Street by Rosauers, and downtown).  About 100 
>worked downtown in the years before Verizon closed down that site.
>
>In this same PR letter, NSA claims to presently have 140 students and 17 
>staff.   They also clearly state that they have plans to expand to 200 
>students and 25 staff.
>
>Comparing the two, NSA will have twice as many people in their downtown 
>building - and very likely twice as many automobiles seeking parking places 
>- as the former occupant of that space.
>
>Plus, NSA conveniently ignored the fact that GTE/Verizon provided a private 
>parking lot for its employees (on Jackson Street, by the present San 
>Miguel's Tacos).
>
>This parking issue is crucial to the future of Moscow's downtown, and the 
>public will have a last opportunity to comment at the Board of Adjustment 
>hearing, Tuesday, March 28, 7pm, city council chambers.  In addition, 
>written comments may be hand-delivered to the Community Development 
>Department, 221 East 2nd Street, before the hearing for those who can not 
>attend. The hearing focuses on whether or not to grant a Conditional Use 
>Permit to allow NSA to be in that retail zone downtown.
>
>For the future of Moscow, an enforced condition for that permit should 
>require that NSA provide a parking lot for its staff and students.
>
>That will help solve our downtown parking problem, and at least make NSA's 
>impact and contribution equal to what GTE provided.
>
>
>
>BL

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