[Vision2020] oh, my, oh my, oh my...

[Tom Ivie]

WHAT?! Social Causation of women in F-16's? I must admit, sometimes my wife's reflexes are better than mine, especially when I tick her off.  At those times she would probably be dangerous in an F-16.  But I am thinking that is not the point being made? The term "health nazi" has me perplexed.  What is a health nazi? Maybe it would be more productive to describe "feminist"?  Perhaps a strong woman who can think for herself?  Considers themselves to be a "partner" in a relationship and not just an inactive participant?  

Michael <metzler at moscow.com> wrote:        st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }                Keely & J,
   
  I don’t think Wilson’s point (he quotes from his own book) was that women in the pulpit led to sodomites and health nazi’s; rather, this led to women in the cockpit of F-16s. This seems a tame claim to me, one I suspect we would all actually agree with. Perhaps at the very most women in pulpits led to feminism, but that doesn’t seem right historically.  So I’m assuming this point about women is merely an illustration of social causation involved with the separate and preceding list.
   
  Michael Metzler 
   
  Wilson's vile spittal:
   
  "The declension of culture in America is comparable to well-meaning but naive parents who raise a child without discipline and without instilling self-control and who are then shocked at the extent of the rebellion apparent when that child gets away from home. The extent of our current rebellion can be seen in our cultural parade of sodomites, cotqueans, health nazis, and feminists. But the nature of this rebellion was established long before. There were women in pulpits and standing at altars long before they were seated in the cockpits of F-16s" (The Paideia of God, p. 116).
  Posted by Douglas Wilson - 3/6/2006 3:46:45 PM "
   
  So, those involved with the doggy do-do in the cars, aimed ONLY at those in disagreement with Doug - where do they fall within his tirade?  What self-control did they show?  How about those that were invovled in the snowball fight in the parking lot this winter, that a community business owner complained of at a City Meeting?  Of the deceitful manner in which Halverson gathered signatures for a bogus petition?  Or those that start up businesses in illegal places and ways?  Or open betting houses and then refuse to pay taxes on the house's "take"?  Obviously, I could go on and on and on....
   
  And in reference to "women at the pulpit" - where does that leave Debra?  or Mary, for that matter?  What, now women can't even "stand at the alter"?  
  Where's it say that?
   
  And just what the bleep is a "health nazi"?  Or is this another example of Doug calling someone names that he does not agree with?  Guess you missed the part in the Bible, Doug, that says "Love your neighbor as yourself" - either that, or you have a boat-load of self-loathing going on.
   
  J  :]
   
   
   
   
  >From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
  >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
  >Subject: [Vision2020] oh, my
  >Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:40:04 -0800
  > 
  > 
  >While checking out Blog and Mablog, Doug Wilson's contribution to . . . 
  >well, to something . . . I noticed a post dated March 6 called "Where 
  >The Problem Started."  While DW is quoting again from another work, he 
  >clearly affirms the message, and as a woman who has stood in the pulpit 
  >and preached, I was unaware I had caused so many of the world's alleged 
  >problems.
  > 
  >Vile stuff, but filling enough for his audience, I guess.  After all, 
  >even weak and abused sheep get hungry enough to munch on thistles.
  > 
  >keely
   

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