[Vision2020] Goodnight Goody, Goodnight Ridge
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 5 07:51:14 PST 2006
Mr. Hansen,
Thanks for the link. Yes, I did listen to the radio broadcast, it was interesting, but I did not learn anything new. I do no find it shocking that a company that sells a high end product would not want to sell to Walmart. People do not go to Walmart for high end products. The business owner was not FORCED to work for Walmart, he CHOSE to stay in the US and not do business with Walmart.
That seems to be a concept BJ Swanson and many others do not seem to understand. Many do not want nor can they afford high end goods.
BJ has made many false statements about Walmart, one being about Gillette, another being that the majority of products are being made in factories overseas. The majority of products sold at Walmart are made in the US. She has done this making up stuff about Walmart, in the past as well, such as with employee health insurance, and pay.
I do not disagree that Walmart needs improvement and has some nasty habits in the way it does business, but please, making crap up about businesses and people is just unacceptable behavior to try and win an argument.
Take Care,
_DJA
Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Arnold –
Ms. Swanson was referring to the “quality” of the product, not the price comparison.
It is my impression that Wal-Mart will contract manufacturers to produce, and sell to them (Wal-Mart), a lower quality product. In this manner Wal-Mart retains the manufacturer’s label on the product while they (Wal-Mart) continue to under-cut competition.
Now, before you go off on some long, boring dissertation about how well the Duracell batteries worked that you purchased at Wal-Mart: this retail “approach” is not applied to ALL products at Wal-Mart.
Ms. Swanson is not the first person to make such a suggestion. On February 3, 2006, David Gardner (host of NPR's "Motley Fool") interviewed Charles Fishman, author of "The Wal-Mart Effect". Like I had stated earlier, this interview is well-balanced; the good, the bad, and the ugly.
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Sounds/MotleyFool_020306_WalMartEffect.wma
You will notice that Charles Fishman does not come across as, nor is he, a campaigner against Wal-Mart. His claims are substantiated by references he makes in the course of the above interview.
Please listen to the interview, Arnold. You may just learn something.
Until then . . .
Seeya round town, Moscow.
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
"The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change and the Realist adjusts his sails."
- Unknown
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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:31 AM
To: bjswan at moscow.com; 'Vision 2020'
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Goodnight Goody, Goodnight Ridge
More rhetoric from BJ Swanson.
Take this line for example:
"Compare the Gillette Mach 3 razors purchased at Wal-Mart with those purchased at non-Wal-Mart stores. Notice the color is different even though the name is the same? Notice the Wal-Mart Mach 3 doesn’t last nearly as long as those purchased from Costco, Rite-Aid, Hodgins, Marketime?"
Sorry BJ. I am afraid you are confusing the Gillette Mach 3 with the Gillettee Mach 3 "turbo" which has a different color handle and lasts longer. Both of which are cheaper at your local Wal-Mart.
A Wal-Mart is significantly cheaper than even a local discount store like Winco. For example, Hefty Serve and Store plates 22 count $2.00 at Wal-Mart. At Winco, $2.78 but 20 count. Aleve Pain medication, $12.48 for 200 count. Winco $20 if you buy 2 100 bottles, they do not ha! ve 200.
Heinz Tomato Ketchup 36 oz, $1.78 at Wal_Mart, $2.12 at Winco.
3 bars of Irish Spring soap, 75 cents. The same three bars at Winco, over $2.
12 Pack of any Pepsi or Coke, $3 at Wal-Mart $3.78 at Winco. Safeway $4.50
I could not find one item that was sold at both Winco and Walmart where Wal-Mart was not at least 15% cheaper.
On average I save 20% off a price of an item IF I can find it at Wal_Mart. I would save $1000 a year on groceries alone plus they would bag my groceries for me and take my debit card. $1000 a year probably ain't worth the trips for BJ Swanson with her salary. But for me and many college students that is a huge chunk of cash we can use toward the dental care she helped cut from the UI health insurance program.
The Diet Coke, Heinz Ketchup, and Aleve I buy at Wal-Mart is the EXACT same product I buy at Safeway, Winco, and ShopKo.
Many businesses are taking your money a! nd ripping you off OR have a lousy business model if they are selling the same product for a price 25% higher than Wal_mart. Our local businesses do NOT pay workers more than Wal_mart.
A Super Wal-Mart would not only force prices lower for everyone, which benefits us all, but it also would supply us with more goods that Moscow is not providing that so many of us leave town to get. Not to mention the added benefits of being able to shop in Moscow outside the hours of 11AM to 4 PM.
_DJA
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