[Vision2020] Re: Gay marriage...... an oxymoron......

[Art Deco]

Joan writes:

"I would go further and point out that homosexual behavior is far from unnatural; it's actually quite common throughout the biological world.  I recommend the books "Biological Exuberance" and, for a humorous as well as a factual take on the whole matter, "Dr. Tatiana's Sex Advice for All Creation."  Same-sex couplings among the higher orders are frequent and well documented.  The unnatural argument is nothing more than homophobia masquerading as science." 


Perhaps the ethereal Nolan Lynch and Tony Simpson are very sheltered cityslickers:  

Anyone who has spent time at a zoo would know that same gender sexual relations are common.  See:
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1284769.html
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/02/07/MNG3N4RAV41.DTL

Anyone who spends time observing wildlife would know that same gender sexual relations are common.

Especially anyone who has lived on a farm which raises various kinds of animals and fowl would know that same gender sexual relations are common, in some instances and conditions more common than different gender sexual relations.

Hence, calling same gender sexual relations "unnatural" is simply displaying abysmal ignorance which, of course, leads one to suspect that Nolan and Tony are affiliated with the Wilson & Family's Cult & Cash Machine.  Ignorance is sometimes easy to cure if the sufferer has an open mind; homophobia, and its attendant pathology, much more difficult.


>From the vehemence of their writings one strongly suspects that both Nolan and Tony are in excruciating pain caused by reaction-formation***.  Perhaps they should get together and attempt to alleviate that condition by exorcising that blinding, crippling pain with mutual pleasure.

Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com



***REACTION-FORMATION : The blocking of desire by its opposite. "Reaction-formation" is the term Freud uses to describe the mechanism whereby the ego reacts to the impulses of the id by creating an antithetical formation that blocks repressed cathexes. For example, someone who feels homosexual desire might repress that desire by turning it into hatred for all homosexuals. See also substitute-formation.  
[http://www.cla.purdue.edu/academic/engl/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/reactionformation.html]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joan Opyr" <joanopyr at moscow.com>
To: <joekc at adelphia.net>
Cc: "Vision2020 Moscow" <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Scott Dredge" <sdredge at yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: Gay marriage...... an oxymoron......


> On 2 Mar 2006, at 13:16, joekc at adelphia.net wrote:
> 
>> Donovan,
>>
>> Good point. But the consequences of forbidding same-sex marriage go 
>> even further still. My wife and I, Christian as we be, have no 
>> intention of having children any longer. We have one wonderful son and 
>> that is all we'd like to have. If you follow the anti-same-sex 
>> marriage arguments, the web or irrationality is suddenly thrust on us, 
>> as well.
>>
>> At best, folks like Tony can only appeal to the Argument from Nature: 
>> "Homosexuality"?T is unnatural; therefore, it is immoral, or laws 
>> against it are justified.
>>
>> This is as bad of an argument as there is. First, there is little 
>> reason to accept the premise, given the prevalence of gays and 
>> lesbians in society. Second, even if you accept the premise, there is 
>> little reason to accept either conclusion. Flying in an airplane is 
>> unnatural. Is it immoral? Should it be illegal? Again, once we begin 
>> to accept such irrational arguments a rather wide net is cast, one 
>> that catches far more than those originally intended.
>>
>> Iâ?Tm against laws limiting marriage, for most of them are based on 
>> general principles that would, if carried out to their full extent, 
>> compromise my own choices and actions. I don't have to be gay to be 
>> against them. The lesson to learn is that injustice anywhere is a 
>> threat to freedom everywhere.
>>
>> --
>> Joe Campbell
>>
> 
> Good points, all.  I would go further and point out that homosexual 
> behavior is far from unnatural; it's actually quite common throughout 
> the biological world.  I recommend the books "Biological Exuberance" 
> and, for a humorous as well as a factual take on the whole matter, "Dr. 
> Tatiana's Sex Advice for All Creation."  Same-sex couplings among the 
> higher orders are frequent and well documented.  The unnatural argument 
> is nothing more than homophobia masquerading as science.  It's simply 
> Toe-Knee-Time's way of saying "ick" without accepting the 
> repercussions.
> 
> Which brings me to a question:  Toe-Knee-Time, real person, troll, or 
> instructions for doing the Hokey Pokey?
> 
> Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
> www.joanopyr.com
> 
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