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<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT><FONT size=4>Joan writes:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"I would go further and point out that homosexual behavior is far from
unnatural; it's actually quite common throughout the biological world. I
recommend the books "Biological Exuberance" and, for a humorous as well as a
factual take on the whole matter, "Dr. Tatiana's Sex Advice for All
Creation." Same-sex couplings among the higher orders are frequent and
well documented. The unnatural argument is nothing more than homophobia
masquerading as science." </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Perhaps the ethereal Nolan Lynch and Tony Simpson are very
sheltered cityslickers: </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Anyone who has spent time at a zoo would know that same gender
sexual relations are common. See:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><A
href="http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1284769.html">http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1284769.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/02/07/MNG3N4RAV41.DTL">http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/02/07/MNG3N4RAV41.DTL</A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Anyone who spends time observing wildlife would know that same
gender sexual relations are common.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Especially anyone who has lived on a farm which raises various
kinds of animals and fowl would know that same gender sexual relations are
common, in some instances and conditions more common than different gender
sexual relations.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Hence, calling same gender sexual relations "unnatural" is
simply displaying abysmal ignorance which, of course, leads one to suspect that
Nolan and Tony are affiliated with the <FONT size=6><FONT
face="Olde English">Wilson & Family's Cult & <FONT
color=#00bb88><STRONG>Cash Machine</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT>.
Ignorance is sometimes easy to cure if the sufferer has an open mind;
homophobia, and its attendant pathology, much more difficult.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>From the vehemence of their writings one strongly suspects
that both Nolan and Tony are in excruciating pain caused by
reaction-formation***. Perhaps they should get together and attempt to
alleviate that condition by exorcising that blinding, crippling pain with mutual
pleasure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><BR>Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)<BR><A
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=4><STRONG><FONT color=#b5a679><FONT size=5>***R</FONT><FONT
size=3>EACTION</FONT><FONT size=+2>-</FONT><FONT size=+2>F</FONT><FONT
size=3>ORMATION </FONT></FONT></STRONG><FONT size=3>: </FONT><B><FONT
size=+1>The blocking of desire by its opposite</FONT></B><FONT size=3>.
"Reaction-formation" is the term Freud uses to describe the mechanism whereby
the </FONT><A
href="http://www.cla.purdue.edu/academic/engl/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/ego.html"
target=_self><FONT size=3>ego</FONT></A><FONT size=3> <I>reacts</I> to the
impulses of the </FONT><A
href="http://www.cla.purdue.edu/academic/engl/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/id.html"
target=_self><FONT size=3>id</FONT></A><FONT size=3> by creating an antithetical
formation that blocks </FONT><A
href="http://www.cla.purdue.edu/academic/engl/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/repression.html"
target=_self><FONT size=3>repressed</FONT></A><FONT size=3> </FONT><A
href="http://www.cla.purdue.edu/academic/engl/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/cathexis.html"
target=_self><FONT size=3>cathexes</FONT></A><FONT size=3>. For example, someone
who feels homosexual desire might </FONT><A
href="http://www.cla.purdue.edu/academic/engl/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/repression.html"
target=_self><FONT size=3>repress</FONT></A><FONT size=3> that desire by turning
it into hatred for all homosexuals. </FONT><A
href="http://www.cla.purdue.edu/academic/engl/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/substituteformation.html"
target=_self><FONT size=3>See also substitute-formation</FONT></A></FONT><FONT
size=3>. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3>[<A
href="http://www.cla.purdue.edu/academic/engl/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/reactionformation.html">http://www.cla.purdue.edu/academic/engl/theory/psychoanalysis/definitions/reactionformation.html</A>]</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>----- Original Message -----
<DIV>From: "Joan Opyr" <<A
href="mailto:joanopyr@moscow.com">joanopyr@moscow.com</A>></DIV>
<DIV>To: <<A
href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net">joekc@adelphia.net</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Cc: "Vision2020 Moscow" <<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>>; "Scott
Dredge" <<A href="mailto:sdredge@yahoo.com">sdredge@yahoo.com</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 8:02 AM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: Gay marriage...... an
oxymoron......</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>> On 2 Mar 2006, at 13:16, <A
href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net">joekc@adelphia.net</A> wrote:<BR>>
<BR>>> Donovan,<BR>>><BR>>> Good point. But the consequences
of forbidding same-sex marriage go <BR>>> even further still. My wife and
I, Christian as we be, have no <BR>>> intention of having children any
longer. We have one wonderful son and <BR>>> that is all we'd like to
have. If you follow the anti-same-sex <BR>>> marriage arguments, the web
or irrationality is suddenly thrust on us, <BR>>> as
well.<BR>>><BR>>> At best, folks like Tony can only appeal to the
Argument from Nature: <BR>>> "Homosexuality"?T is unnatural; therefore, it
is immoral, or laws <BR>>> against it are
justified.<BR>>><BR>>> This is as bad of an argument as there is.
First, there is little <BR>>> reason to accept the premise, given the
prevalence of gays and <BR>>> lesbians in society. Second, even if you
accept the premise, there is <BR>>> little reason to accept either
conclusion. Flying in an airplane is <BR>>> unnatural. Is it immoral?
Should it be illegal? Again, once we begin <BR>>> to accept such
irrational arguments a rather wide net is cast, one <BR>>> that catches
far more than those originally intended.<BR>>><BR>>> Iâ?Tm against
laws limiting marriage, for most of them are based on <BR>>> general
principles that would, if carried out to their full extent, <BR>>>
compromise my own choices and actions. I don't have to be gay to be <BR>>>
against them. The lesson to learn is that injustice anywhere is a <BR>>>
threat to freedom everywhere.<BR>>><BR>>> --<BR>>> Joe
Campbell<BR>>><BR>> <BR>> Good points, all. I would go further
and point out that homosexual <BR>> behavior is far from unnatural; it's
actually quite common throughout <BR>> the biological world. I
recommend the books "Biological Exuberance" <BR>> and, for a humorous as well
as a factual take on the whole matter, "Dr. <BR>> Tatiana's Sex Advice for
All Creation." Same-sex couplings among the <BR>> higher orders are
frequent and well documented. The unnatural argument <BR>> is nothing
more than homophobia masquerading as science. It's simply <BR>>
Toe-Knee-Time's way of saying "ick" without accepting the <BR>>
repercussions.<BR>> <BR>> Which brings me to a question:
Toe-Knee-Time, real person, troll, or <BR>> instructions for doing the Hokey
Pokey?<BR>> <BR>> Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment<BR>> <A
href="http://www.joanopyr.com">www.joanopyr.com</A><BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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