[Vision2020] Re: Gay marriage...... an oxymoron......

[Joan Opyr]

On 2 Mar 2006, at 13:16, joekc at adelphia.net wrote:

> Donovan,
>
> Good point. But the consequences of forbidding same-sex marriage go 
> even further still. My wife and I, Christian as we be, have no 
> intention of having children any longer. We have one wonderful son and 
> that is all we'd like to have. If you follow the anti-same-sex 
> marriage arguments, the web or irrationality is suddenly thrust on us, 
> as well.
>
> At best, folks like Tony can only appeal to the Argument from Nature: 
> "Homosexuality"€™ is unnatural; therefore, it is immoral, or laws 
> against it are justified.
>
> This is as bad of an argument as there is. First, there is little 
> reason to accept the premise, given the prevalence of gays and 
> lesbians in society. Second, even if you accept the premise, there is 
> little reason to accept either conclusion. Flying in an airplane is 
> unnatural. Is it immoral? Should it be illegal? Again, once we begin 
> to accept such irrational arguments a rather wide net is cast, one 
> that catches far more than those originally intended.
>
> I’m against laws limiting marriage, for most of them are based on 
> general principles that would, if carried out to their full extent, 
> compromise my own choices and actions. I don't have to be gay to be 
> against them. The lesson to learn is that injustice anywhere is a 
> threat to freedom everywhere.
>
> --
> Joe Campbell
>

Good points, all.  I would go further and point out that homosexual 
behavior is far from unnatural; it's actually quite common throughout 
the biological world.  I recommend the books "Biological Exuberance" 
and, for a humorous as well as a factual take on the whole matter, "Dr. 
Tatiana's Sex Advice for All Creation."  Same-sex couplings among the 
higher orders are frequent and well documented.  The unnatural argument 
is nothing more than homophobia masquerading as science.  It's simply 
Toe-Knee-Time's way of saying "ick" without accepting the 
repercussions.

Which brings me to a question:  Toe-Knee-Time, real person, troll, or 
instructions for doing the Hokey Pokey?

Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
www.joanopyr.com