[Vision2020] Re: Gay marriage...... an oxymoron......

[Phil Nisbet]

J

I have to jump in there.  The figures for dead beat moms are not exactly 
rosey either.  Most single sole custody fathers, at a rate of 80% are owed 
child support.  Its a systemic problem.  The parent who ends the marriage 
and heads for the hills seems most often to figure that the kids and raising 
them, paying for their upkeep and providing them with emotional succor is 
the job of the custodial parent.  The margins are changing to, more and more 
guys are the ones getting their kids and there is darn little support 
network out there for new single dads.

You have raised kids in a single parent household, as have I.  Maybe that is 
why its easier to see that two parents, hetro or homo, gay, lesbian, 
straight or maritan, is one heck of a lot easier for kids than just one 
parent.

There are a lot of kids out there with no parents.  Is it better for them to 
be raised with no parents or to allow gay couples to adopt?  I think thats a 
no brainer, since a kid needs a parent or two if at all possible.  If 
raising kids is the reason that marriage is an institution and that people 
should have benefits, than the benefit should be granted to all couples with 
kids and even to singles with kids.  Thats not about toleration, its about 
equal protection under the law.

Phil Nisbet


>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Re: Gay marriage...... an oxymoron......
>Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:11:24 -0800
>
>Using this, uh, logic...we's in trouble dude.  Over 50% of hetrosexual 
>marriages end in divorce, 10-15% of them with violence as part of the daily 
>life, towards the wife AND children.  Of the men that leave the marriage, 
>over 60% of them don't provide support willingly, if at all, much less 
>visit their children and/or participate in their upbringing.  Of course, 
>that is taking it for granted that what you mean by "facilitat(ing) the 
>raising of offspring" is NOT simply the act of creating them.
>
>Marriage is the union of two people who make certain promises to each other 
>as well as to God/the community.  Life happens and things don't always work 
>out as planned.  Just ask Greg Dickison.
>
>J  :]
>
>>From: ToeKneeTime at aol.com
>>
>>Scott,
>>
>>It is my understanding that the entire purpose behind the institution of
>>marriage was to facilitate the raising of offspring.  To ensure that the  
>>male
>>did not simply abandon the female and their children, leaving them to  
>>fend for
>>themselves.  Whatever you want to call 2 men or 2 woman living  together, 
>>it
>>sure isn't marriage.
>>
>>Best,  Tony
>
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