[Vision2020] Churches and Taxes
keely emerinemix
kjajmix1 at msn.com
Wed Mar 1 20:10:48 PST 2006
Thanks for your comments, mek7 -- I'll give you my reasons in a nutshell.
One, I don't believe that national achievement tests (standardized
testing/assessments) are the only, perhaps not even the best, indicator of
student achievement or school success.
Two, I believe that where there are statistical differences, they are often
accounted for by the fact that public schools -- thank God, and I mean that
literally -- take all children, whereas private schools are able to pick and
choose the most able students.
Third, and most important, I believe that what public schools have to offer
competes well academically with private schools, but equally beneficial are
the non-academic things learned, things like how to develop a "big world"
view of life around us, how to get along with people who are different from
you in some way (while realizing the equally important lesson that we're all
the "different one" to others as well), and struggling through difficulties
academic and social in an environment that strives to create common cause
among learners. It's for that cause that I work as a school board trustee,
and that's why I'm grateful to God that I can send my sons to public
schools, of which the Moscow School District is an outstanding example.
I look forward to hearing from you, mek7.
keely
From: mekt7 at netscape.net
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Churches and Taxes
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:57:10 -0500
Howcan you assume that public school education is better than private
education? Year in and year out private school students almost always score
better on national achievement tests.
-----Original Message-----
From: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
To: chapandmaize at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:07:49 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Churches and Taxes
Good points, James. Thanks.
keely
From: "James Reynolds" <chapandmaize at hotmail.com>
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Churches and Taxes
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:52:33 -0800
Hi Doug,
The isuue of how best to educate our children has been answered many times.
Public education does a better job and it is all inclusive. It is fine if a
religious group wants to educate their children differently to instill
whatever beliefs they want into their children. No one argues with that. But
until the private schools take up the yolk of educating the entire
distribution of learning abilities they are not an option of any consequence
to our nation.
I have personally seen graduates from Logos (will never mention names) who
were ignorant of basic scientific fact and had the math abilities of a
counting horse. I have seen the same from the Moscow school district. I have
also seen graduates from both that I knew I would never be able to keep up
with. The point is however, we should expect this. For every single
attribute in the universe there is a distribution.
The main benefit of the pubic system is that it attends to the entire
distribution from the most to the least capable and tries to give them all
the best.
James Reynolds
>From: heirdoug at netscape.net
>To: kjajmix1 at msn.com, thansen at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Churches and Taxes
>Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:13:41 -0500
>
>keely,
>
>I'm glad to see that your response time has gotten shorter. It must be the
>winter olympics.
>
>I suppose that would depend upon how you define 'benefits' and 'educated'.
>The last I heard only 50 % of those who graduate from High School actually
>go on to Higher education and of those 30 % have to take remedial math and
>remedial language classes over in order to enter into college. I used to
>teach the high school graduates that couldn't add, subtract, multiply and
>divide properly. If I had given them the above data in the form of a word
>problem, many of them would have added the 50 to the 30 and come up with -
>80% can pass the basic math problems with ease.....
>
>Oh, by the way, I'm not smug I just have a head cold.... Thanks for your
>concern!
>
>lemeno, Doug!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>To: heirdoug at netscape.net; thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>Sent: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:24:37 -0800
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Churches and Taxes
>
>
>I suppose the argument that all of society benefits when its children are
>educated would be lost on the ineffably smug Mr. Farris . . .
>
>keely
>
>From: heirdoug at netscape.net
>To: thansen at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] Churches and Taxes
>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:47:27 -0500
>
>Tom-Tom,
>
>Using your infallible logic, if parents of school aged children educate
>them via some
>other form than Keely's infallible school system then they should be free
>from paying
>52% property taxes to the school district for services they do not use!
>
>I'll Pray for fewer teachers teaching larger classes with less
>administrative overhead!
>
>Again keep up the good work! Doug
>
>Tom-Tom so eloquently stated:
>New Rule: If churches don't have to pay taxes, they also can't call the
>fire
>department when they catch fire. Sorry, Reverend, that's one of those
>services that goes along with paying in. I'll use the fire department I
pay
>for; you can pray for rain.
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