[Vision2020] Submission

[Matt Decker]

ah the troll stikes again.


>From: John D <johnd550 at yahoo.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Submission
>Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:10:06 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Michael <metzler at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>   > The unique kind of submission of a woman toward her husband as
>   > found in the New Testament really is not sufficiently different
>   > enough from the patriarchical creepiness that we have gladly
>   > freed ourselves from.  Any kind of unique form of submission
>   > that might be required of a wife that would not be required of a
>   > husband - at least to the same extent - is by definition the
>   > partaking in an institution of oppression.  Therefore,
>   > Christianity cannot be true
>
>   1 Corinthians 11:3
>   Woman is subordinate to man, man is subordinate to Christ, Christ is 
>subordinate to God.
>   God > Christ > man > woman
>
>   1 Corinthians 11:5
>   Women have to cover their heads during prayer or preaching, because 
>doing otherwise brings shame upon their men.
>
>   1 Corinthians 11:7
>   Man is made in the image of God. Woman is made in the image of man.
>
>   1 Corinthians 11:8-9
>   God made woman for man, not the other way around.
>
>   1 Corinthians 11:10
>   A woman has to cover her head, as a sign that she submits to her 
>husband.
>
>   1 Corinthians 14:34
>   If believers gather, women have to be silent. They have to be humble 
>enough to leave the talking to their husbands.
>
>   1 Corinthians 14:35
>  If a woman has a question, she can't ask it in church, because women are 
>not allowed to talk in church. Rather, she should ask her husband the 
>question at home.
>
>   Ephesians 5:22
>   Women should submit to their husband, just like they submit to Christ.
>
>   Ephesians 5:23
>   A man commands his woman, just like Christ commands the church.
>
>   Ephesians 5:24
>   Women have to obey their husbands in all aspects, just like the church 
>has to obey Christ in all aspects.
>
>   Ephesians 5:33
>   Men have to merely love their women as they love themselves. Women have 
>to respect their men.
>
>   Colossians 3:18
>   Women must submit to their husbands, because that's what Christ expects.
>
>   1 Timothy 2:11
>   Women have to be humble and meekly listen to what they are taught.
>
>   1 Timothy 2:12
>   Women cannot teach men, nor can they be their boss. They have to be 
>calm.
>
>   1 Timothy 2:14
>   Women are responsible for letting sin into the world.
>
>   1 Timothy 2:15
>   But don't worry. They will be saved if they live meekly and modestly.
>
>   Titus 2:4-5
>   Older women have to teach younger ones to live meekly, stay at home, and 
>be obedient to their husbands.
>
>   1 Peter 3:1
>   Women must subject to their husbands.
>
>   1 Peter 3:5
>   Good women in the old days were subjected to their husbands.
>
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