[Vision2020] Ted's car (was: Escalation of claims)

[Ted Moffett]

Joan et. al.

Thanks for your reply.

I warmly recall your concern and offer of "The Beast" (isn't that what you
called it?) as a temporary replacement vehicle, at the time my car was
vandalized.

I'd rather not be too critical against the Latah Sheriff Dept.'s conduct in
the case of my vandalized car, for a number of reasons.  They had answers
regarding how they conducted themselves in this case.

But I agree you raise valid questions regarding their conduct in this
incident.

The tow fee is one of those cases where the victim of a crime gets
victimized again due to how the system works.  When property someone owns
presents a hazard to public safety, like having a car left in the middle of
the road, even though the fact of the car being in the road occurred because
of the commission of a crime, not by my doing, the owner still can get stuck
with a tow bill.  And the tires were all flat, so the car had to be dragged
or towed off the road, not just pushed.  Law enforcement felt public safety
dictated getting the car off the road as quickly as possible via a tow
truck.  Law enforcement apparently does not feel compelled to pay the bill
in these cases.  That lovely expense falls on the owner of the vehicle.

Anyway, I did not check into the details of the law in regards to the tow
fee I was expected to pay, so I really do not know all the legal issues
involved.  The whole incident was so upsetting I just wanted it to go
away...

My main point was, the level of vandalism I experienced makes a mailbox
condom, a few flat tires, and a window mess, seem rather tame by
comparison.  Yet I felt, knowing the seriousness of implicating someone as a
suspect, and the lack of evidence I had regarding who committed the crime,
that I could be sending law enforcement on fishing expeditions, possibly
causing harm to totally innocent people, to name anyone, though there were
certain individuals I suspected and still suspect.  It's entirely possible
total strangers vandalized my car.

I think it natural of Wilson to be concerned that these incidents of
"vandalism" might be indicative of a pattern that could involve much more
serious actions in the future, or continuing actions of the same nature,
thus the need to call law enforcement to report the incidents, or to expect
more monitoring of his residence.

As has been made clear, it is the naming of individuals as suspects with no
good evidence they were involved that is questionable, individuals some of
whom I highly doubt would commit such juvenile prankish vandalism, at least
now that they are mature adults, though I know nothing about several of the
individuals named in Wilson's statement.

Ted Moffett


On 7/29/06, Joan Opyr <joanopyr at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ted,
>
> I do remember when this happened to your car.  It was dreadful!  The
> damage was very clearly deliberate, targeted, and it took someone or
> some persons, multiple, quite some time to complete the job.  That you
> did not supply the Sheriff's Department with a speculative "enemies
> list" is a credit to your integrity.  What a  great opportunity to take
> a whack at old adversaries or present irritants!  I still cannot fathom
> that you were obliged to pay $100 to retrieve your battered car from
> the towing yard, or that the deputies on call did not bother to contact
> you (even though you were at home) before towing your vehicle.
>
> This is vandalism.  This is harassment.  This is worthy of police time
> and inquiry.  Doug has experience nothing like what Ted suffered.  What
> Doug has done is taken diddly-squat and turned it into a means to
> discredit a few of his critics.  That their names are now in the public
> record as possible condom-stalkers and dung-flingers is a disgrace.
> That Doug has turned a couple of flat tires and a dirty window into a
> means of damaging the reputations of five people he happens to dislike
> ought to be treated as slander.  Again, let's have an investigation.
> Doug says in his statement that he doesn't want one.  I'll bet not.
> But the people he names deserve and investigation.  Perhaps it will
> serve to polish their now tarnished reputations.
>
> Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
> www.joanopyr.com
>
> On Jul 29, 2006, at 12:59 PM, Ted Moffett wrote:
>
> > Joan et. al.
> >
> > Joan may remember the extreme vandalism committed against a vehicle I
> > owned in the spring of 2005. I communicated with Joan at that time
> > about this incident. The level of violence and destruction against
> > said vehicle makes Wilson's "harassment" look like a playful punch in
> > the shoulder from a buddy compared to a having someone drop kick your
> > face into the pavement losing your front teeth in a bloody fractured
> > enameled mess.
> >
> > My car windows were smashed out, doors frames bent, it looked like
> > from being impacted by a cinder block, tires flattened...The car had
> > been pushed or towed into the road from the parking area by the
> > vandals, blocking traffic. Consider this was on a rural gravel road,
> > the crime was committed in the early morning hours on a Saturday, and
> > my car was parked a distance away from the residence.
> >
> > When Latah Sheriff deputies showed up, having been notified by someone
> > driving that the road was blocked, they had my vandalized car towed,
> > sticking me with the 100 dollar tow bill. I was sound asleep the
> > whole time.
> >
> > After my car was towed away, the two Latah Sheriff deputies pounded on
> > my door, waking me up. They informed me what had happened, and told
> > me the identity of the tow truck business where my car was being
> > held.
> >
> > And the main relevance of this story to the naming of "suspects" by
> > Wilson regarding the alleged "harassment?"
> >
> > During my brief discussion of the vandalizing of my car with the Latah
> > Sheriff deputies, one of them asked if I had any enemies, or could
> > give them names of suspects. I offered none. Sure, I could have
> > reeled off a list of people who might or do have something against me
> > for one reason or another. But I felt I had nothing solid to go on to
> > name anybody.
> >
> > I am not as naive as some on this list who seem to think that offering
> > the police names of individuals who might be suspects in a crime, when
> > you have no solid evidence to implicate them,is a trifling issue. I
> > think it is highly ethically questionable to implicate others in
> > crimes without solid grounds.
> >
> > I could expand in great detail on this theme regarding the negative
> > consequences of my name being unfairly given to law enforcement to
> > implicate me in a crime, based on flimsy, unfounded"evidence." This
> > can damage reputation, limit employment options, subject someone to
> > embarrassing police scrutiny, if notharassment,etc.
> >
> > We see cases in the media where just naming someone as a suspect in a
> > crime does tremendous damage to the person named, even when later they
> > are totally exonerated. And police reports are public documents, are
> > they not?
> >
> > It would appear so, given that the police reports in question are now
> > on Tom Hansen's web site. I don't think law enforcement would release
> > them to the public if they were meant to be kept "secret," unless
> > forced legally by some means
> >
> > Hansen, Metzler, et. al. are all justified in being very concerned
> > about this issue, in my opinion.
> >
> > Ted Moffett
>
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