[Vision2020] A Change in the Weather

[Donovan Arnold]

We must have read different emails from Chas, Tony.
  
 The one I  read stated that he was unhappy with the behavior of his fellow  liberals, not with those that disagreed with him on politics as you  have implied. I know Chas is all for the 1st Amendment and welcomes  constructive debate, he even took the liberty of meeting with Doug  Wilson to talk about issues, he didn't try to shut him down. 
  
  Best,
  
  _DJA

Tony Simpson <tonytime at clearwire.net> wrote:              Chas,
   
  Sure  wish I could cry like the rest over your departure, but it seems to me  that you were right in the thick of all that "childish sniping and  ridiculous accusations" you accuse a nebulous minority of  committing.  I can't say that I regret that the evolution of this  forum to include a broader array of views has caused you to bail  out.  Many people on the left share your distaste for  balance.  Indeed, as Editor Emeritus, Bill Hall of the Tribune has  stated, the truest test of one's respect for the first  amendment is when it comes time to share the forum with those with  whom you disagree.   Unfortunately you have failed  Editor Hall's test.  never the less, I wish you luck, and perhaps  a more genuine appreciation of the first amendment, in the future.
   
  Stay cool dude,      --Tony
   
    
      ----- Original Message ----- 
    From:     Donovan Arnold 
    To: Chasuk ; Vision2020 
    Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 6:06 PM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Change in the     Weather
    

Chas,

This is most disappointing news. Thanks for all     your input on Vision 2020. 

Best,

_DJA

Chasuk     <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:    I       like the community that is Vision2020, and I've come to consider
many of       you my friends. However, I just can't take it any more. The
childish       sniping and ridiculous accusations of the minority of you
have polluted       the forum, and polluted my soul, so it has come time to
bid you all       adieu.

A few thoughts before I leave, for those who wish to read       them.

First, Doug Wilson isn't going away. When an opponent is       permanently
ensconced (he isn't my opponent, but he is apparently the       opponent of
many of you), then the options are warfare, or a treaty. I'm       an
ecumenical kind of guy. I favor treaties over never-ending       strife,
even if I have fundamental disagreements with my fellow       signatories.
If Doug Wilson were Fred Phelps, or the late Richard Butler,       I
wouldn't advocate a treaty. But Doug Wilson isn't Phelps or       Butler,
even if you want to paint him that way.

If the opposition       to Wilson were not so petulant, inane, and
irrational, and if it were       conducted civilly, then my heart wouldn't
be so heavy. I've been unkind       and unproductively adversarial, which
is part of the reason that I'm       leaving. When you start to become what
you despise, it is time to       disentangle. I'm disentangling, with my
apologies to everyone I've       offended.

Here is a quote from one of my favorite books that explains       it better
than I can:

"Whenever I find myself growing grim about       the mouth; whenever it is a damp,
drizzly November in my soul; whenever I       find myself involuntarily
pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing       up the rear of every
funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get       such an upper
hand of me, that it requires a strong moral principle to       prevent me
from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically       knocking
people's hats off--then, I account it high time to get to sea as       soon
as I can."

There's been a change in the weather. I'm going to       sea.

When I say that I am ecumenical, I don't mean it in the sense       of
merely Christian unity, as I'm not a Christian. I mean it in       the
broader sense of worldwide unity. This starts with       co-operation
between groups, without unity necessarily being the goal.       Unity comes
later, if at all. Co-operation and understanding is a       worthwhile goal
in itself.

I've conducted an interview with       Douglas Wilson that I think is
illuminating. I'm not a Wilson fanboy, I       haven't been ideologically
seduced by him, but I am trying to do my part       in hastening that
treaty. I'll visit Vision2020 one final time to post       the URL where
that interview can be read in its unexpurgated       entirety.

Cheers,

Chas

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