We must have read different emails from Chas, Tony.<br> <br> The one I read stated that he was unhappy with the behavior of his fellow liberals, not with those that disagreed with him on politics as you have implied. I know Chas is all for the 1st Amendment and welcomes constructive debate, he even took the liberty of meeting with Doug Wilson to talk about issues, he didn't try to shut him down. <br> <br> Best,<br> <br> _DJA<br><br><b><i>Tony Simpson <tonytime@clearwire.net></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2912" name="GENERATOR"> <style></style> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Chas,</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Sure wish I could cry like the rest over your departure, but it
seems to me that you were right in the thick of all that "childish sniping and ridiculous accusations" you accuse a nebulous minority of committing. I can't say that I regret that the evolution of this forum to include a broader array of views has caused you to bail out. Many people on the left share your distaste for balance. Indeed, as Editor Emeritus, Bill Hall of the Tribune has stated, the truest test of one's respect for the first amendment is when it comes time to share the forum with those with whom you disagree. Unfortunately you have failed Editor Hall's test. never the less, I wish you luck, and perhaps a more genuine appreciation of the first amendment, in the future.</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Stay cool dude, --Tony</font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font face="Arial"
size="2"> </font></div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: initial; -moz-background-origin: initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>From:</b> <a title="donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height:
normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="chasuk@gmail.com" href="mailto:chasuk@gmail.com">Chasuk</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020</a> </div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 23, 2006 6:06 PM</div> <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] A Change in the Weather</div> <div><br></div>Chas,<br><br>This is most disappointing news. Thanks for all your input on Vision 2020. <br><br>Best,<br><br>_DJA<br><br><b><i>Chasuk <<a href="mailto:chasuk@gmail.com">chasuk@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote: <blockquote class="replbq"
style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;">I like the community that is Vision2020, and I've come to consider<br>many of you my friends. However, I just can't take it any more. The<br>childish sniping and ridiculous accusations of the minority of you<br>have polluted the forum, and polluted my soul, so it has come time to<br>bid you all adieu.<br><br>A few thoughts before I leave, for those who wish to read them.<br><br>First, Doug Wilson isn't going away. When an opponent is permanently<br>ensconced (he isn't my opponent, but he is apparently the opponent of<br>many of you), then the options are warfare, or a treaty. I'm an<br>ecumenical kind of guy. I favor treaties over never-ending strife,<br>even if I have fundamental disagreements with my fellow signatories.<br>If Doug Wilson were Fred Phelps, or the late Richard Butler, I<br>wouldn't advocate a treaty.
But Doug Wilson isn't Phelps or Butler,<br>even if you want to paint him that way.<br><br>If the opposition to Wilson were not so petulant, inane, and<br>irrational, and if it were conducted civilly, then my heart wouldn't<br>be so heavy. I've been unkind and unproductively adversarial, which<br>is part of the reason that I'm leaving. When you start to become what<br>you despise, it is time to disentangle. I'm disentangling, with my<br>apologies to everyone I've offended.<br><br>Here is a quote from one of my favorite books that explains it better<br>than I can:<br><br>"Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; whenever it is a damp,<br>drizzly November in my soul; whenever I find myself involuntarily<br>pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing up the rear of every<br>funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get such an upper<br>hand of me, that it requires a strong moral
principle to prevent me<br>from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking<br>people's hats off--then, I account it high time to get to sea as soon<br>as I can."<br><br>There's been a change in the weather. I'm going to sea.<br><br>When I say that I am ecumenical, I don't mean it in the sense of<br>merely Christian unity, as I'm not a Christian. I mean it in the<br>broader sense of worldwide unity. This starts with co-operation<br>between groups, without unity necessarily being the goal. Unity comes<br>later, if at all. Co-operation and understanding is a worthwhile goal<br>in itself.<br><br>I've conducted an interview with Douglas Wilson that I think is<br>illuminating. I'm not a Wilson fanboy, I haven't been ideologically<br>seduced by him, but I am trying to do my part in hastening that<br>treaty. I'll visit Vision2020 one final time to post the URL where<br>that
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