[Vision2020] Vindictive Tom and J Ford

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Fri Jul 21 21:32:55 PDT 2006


Whatever, Dougie.



J  :]





>From: <Dufflepud at clearwire.net>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: [Vision2020] Vindictive Tom and J Ford
>Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 04:17:07 -0000
>
>
>
>Oh most wise and noble Tom and J Ford. We on duffelpud Island salute you. 
>We
>most certainly agree with your words. They could not have been said better.
>It is most important for us to stick together. Why most of Moscow can't see
>your  grand wisdom is beyond us dufflepuds. Why do they not understand that
>Wilson could never be harrassed even if there are a boat load of people who
>didn't like him as Tom has kindly listed. It is just not possible for him 
>to
>be harrassed. "Not at all", that's what we say. And even if he were, why
>don't people understand that consumming the time of the Moscow police when
>there are no eye wittnesses is a most wonderful thing. For goodness sakes,
>what do they think we pay taxes for? After all investigating more serious
>matters should be set asside so the police can figure out issues such as
>nails, screws, condoms and smelly stuff. It also can't understand why 
>people
>can't understand that anyone who disagrees with us and files a police 
>report
>is surely a liar. What is it about people that they can't understand this
>grand wisdom? You both have been nominated for the dufflepud island award 
>of
>the week. Well done. Keep up the wise words. We salute you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> >    1. Re: vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED) (Tom Hansen)
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:56:41 -0700
> > From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
> > To: "'g. crabtree'" <jampot at adelphia.net>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Message-ID: <003401c6ad3a$75d0bb80$631aa8c0 at D5L3R191>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > It is really quite simple, GC -
> >
> >
> >
> > If, in fact, those acts of harassment happened as Wilson reported to the
> > police, what standard did he apply to simply restrict his "list of 
>names"
>to
> > those four people?
> >
> >
> >
> > Was his standard that they had "voiced animosity" against him and his
> > church?  If so, wouldn't the list be considerably longer than those four
> > names?
> >
> >
> >
> > If I remember correctly, Doug Stambler also "voiced animosity" against
> > Wilson a long while back.  Perhaps Stambler has returned.
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps Rose Huskey and Saundra Lund (after having lost their appeal
>against
> > Wilson Inc.) conspired to harass Wilson.
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps I committed these acts of harassment in retaliation after having
> > read my wife's name and medical history outlined on Courtney's blog a 
>while
> > back.
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps these acts of harassment were committed by Joan Opyr for 
>virtually
> > any number of reasons provided by Wilson and/or Courtney.
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps Nick Gier . . .
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps Bill London . . .
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps BJ Swanson . . .
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps Debi Robinson-Smith . . .
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps half the City Council . . .
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps anybody that protested his "History Conference" of February
>2004 . .
> > .
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps . . . Perhaps . . . Perhaps . . .
> >
> >
> >
> > It isn't necessarily the reporting of the supposed harassment that I
> > question, but why does he associate those four people (Wolf, Nolan,
>Metzler,
> > and Morin) and not others?
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> >
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> >
> >
> > *************************************************
> >
> > "When people sin, everybody has to pay."
> >
> > - Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. (dba Christ Church) (June 7, 2002)
> >
> > For more details:  http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com
> >
> > *************************************************
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: g. crabtree [mailto:jampot at adelphia.net]
> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 7:30 PM
> > To: Tom Hansen; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, I'm not sure what this has to do with my post on the wonder twins
> > activities with regard to the city's budget but I love a non sequitur as
> > much as Turks love taffy and fluffy towels.
> >
> >
> >
> > Wilson's response to the activities at his home seems quite measured and
> > reasonable. It is the same approach that I, and I assume, most normal
>people
> > would take. Have the incident on file in case you should get lucky and
>catch
> > the verminous vandal but not use up valuable police recourses on what 
>will,
> > almost certainly, be a lost cause as well as a matter of relatively 
>small
> > importance in the greater scheme of things. To imagine that he's making 
>it
> > all up for some dark and unexplainable reason seems a trifle silly and
> > contrived.
> >
> >
> >
> > gc
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: Tom Hansen <mailto:thansen at moscow.com>
> >
> > To: 'g. crabtree' <mailto:jampot at adelphia.net>  ; vision2020 at moscow.com
> >
> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:15 PM
> >
> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
> >
> >
> >
> > Speaking of being vindictive, GC . . .
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.tomandrodna.com/Wilsonistas/Police_Report_071805.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > I especially like the paragraph on page 2 where it is stated:
> >
> >
> >
> > "Wilson said that he did not want to pursue this incident, but wanted to
> > have it documented."
> >
> >
> >
> > If I were harassed as much as Wilson claims that he was harassed, I most
> > certainly would want the police to pursue the matter.  But then, if I 
>had
> > nothing to substantiate my claim of harassment, I would not want the 
>police
> > to pursue it, merely document it to create what would be presented later 
>as
> > a "history", a false history.
> >
> >
> >
> > (Oops.  I forgot to sign the posting.  Wouldn't want anybody to blow a
> > gasket, now would I?)
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> >
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> >
> >
> > PS to His Whineyness - Your harassment complaint only lists four people
> > (Wolf, Nolan, Metzler, and Morin) that you claim who have "voiced 
>animosity
> > to him [Wilson] and his church."  If you check with Courtney or Arnold, 
>I
>am
> > certain that you will be provided at least nine more names.  I'm hurt,
> > Dougie.  I thought that I meant something to you. *sniff . . . sniff*
> >
> >
> >
> > *************************************************
> >
> > "When people sin, everybody has to pay."
> >
> > - Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. (dba Christ Church) (June 7, 2002)
> >
> > For more details:   <http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com>
> > http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com
> >
> > *************************************************
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 20:26:24 -0700
> > From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
> > To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Message-ID: <00c001c6ad3e$9c540f10$6401a8c0 at gmc>
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> >
> > Perhaps because he has other things to be doing and rattled off the 
>first
>few names that came to mind in an effort to move the process along, in
>response to a question on the officers form. What nefarious purpose do you
>imagine is being served by not providing the exhaustive rouges gallery that
>you have conjured up? Do you really think that the MPD is going to follow 
>up
>on a list such as you envision? What would be the point, exactly?
> >
> > gc
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Tom Hansen
> >   To: 'g. crabtree' ; vision2020 at moscow.com
> >   Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 7:56 PM
> >   Subject: RE: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
> >
> >
> >   It is really quite simple, GC -
> >
> >
> >
> >   If, in fact, those acts of harassment happened as Wilson reported to 
>the
>police, what standard did he apply to simply restrict his "list of names" 
>to
>those four people?
> >
> >
> >
> >   Was his standard that they had "voiced animosity" against him and his
>church?  If so, wouldn't the list be considerably longer than those four
>names?
> >
> >
> >
> >   If I remember correctly, Doug Stambler also "voiced animosity" against
>Wilson a long while back.  Perhaps Stambler has returned.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Perhaps Rose Huskey and Saundra Lund (after having lost their appeal
>against Wilson Inc.) conspired to harass Wilson.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Perhaps I committed these acts of harassment in retaliation after 
>having
>read my wife's name and medical history outlined on Courtney's blog a while
>back.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Perhaps these acts of harassment were committed by Joan Opyr for
>virtually any number of reasons provided by Wilson and/or Courtney.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Perhaps Nick Gier . . .
> >
> >
> >
> >   Perhaps Bill London . . .
> >
> >
> >
> >   Perhaps BJ Swanson . . .
> >
> >
> >
> >   Perhaps Debi Robinson-Smith . . .
> >
> >
> >
> >   Perhaps half the City Council . . .
> >
> >
> >
> >   Perhaps anybody that protested his "History Conference" of February
>2004 . . .
> >
> >
> >
> >   Perhaps . . . Perhaps . . . Perhaps . . .
> >
> >
> >
> >   It isn't necessarily the reporting of the supposed harassment that I
>question, but why does he associate those four people (Wolf, Nolan, 
>Metzler,
>and Morin) and not others?
> >
> >
> >
> >   Tom Hansen
> >
> >   Moscow, Idaho
> >
> >
> >
> >   *************************************************
> >
> >   "When people sin, everybody has to pay."
> >
> >   - Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. (dba Christ Church) (June 7, 2002)
> >
> >   For more details:  http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com
> >
> >   *************************************************
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
> >
> >   From: g. crabtree [mailto:jampot at adelphia.net]
> >   Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 7:30 PM
> >   To: Tom Hansen; vision2020 at moscow.com
> >   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
> >
> >
> >
> >   Well, I'm not sure what this has to do with my post on the wonder 
>twins
>activities with regard to the city's budget but I love a non sequitur as
>much as Turks love taffy and fluffy towels.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Wilson's response to the activities at his home seems quite measured 
>and
>reasonable. It is the same approach that I, and I assume, most normal 
>people
>would take. Have the incident on file in case you should get lucky and 
>catch
>the verminous vandal but not use up valuable police recourses on what will,
>almost certainly, be a lost cause as well as a matter of relatively small
>importance in the greater scheme of things. To imagine that he's making it
>all up for some dark and unexplainable reason seems a trifle silly and
>contrived.
> >
> >
> >
> >   gc
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >     From: Tom Hansen
> >
> >     To: 'g. crabtree' ; vision2020 at moscow.com
> >
> >     Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:15 PM
> >
> >     Subject: RE: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
> >
> >
> >
> >     Speaking of being vindictive, GC . . .
> >
> >
> >
> >     http://www.tomandrodna.com/Wilsonistas/Police_Report_071805.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >     I especially like the paragraph on page 2 where it is stated:
> >
> >
> >
> >     "Wilson said that he did not want to pursue this incident, but 
>wanted
>to have it documented."
> >
> >
> >
> >     If I were harassed as much as Wilson claims that he was harassed, I
>most certainly would want the police to pursue the matter.  But then, if I
>had nothing to substantiate my claim of harassment, I would not want the
>police to pursue it, merely document it to create what would be presented
>later as a "history", a false history.
> >
> >
> >
> >     (Oops.  I forgot to sign the posting.  Wouldn't want anybody to blow 
>a
>gasket, now would I?)
> >
> >
> >
> >     Tom Hansen
> >
> >     Moscow, Idaho
> >
> >
> >
> >     PS to His Whineyness - Your harassment complaint only lists four
>people (Wolf, Nolan, Metzler, and Morin) that you claim who have "voiced
>animosity to him [Wilson] and his church."  If you check with Courtney or
>Arnold, I am certain that you will be provided at least nine more names.
>I'm hurt, Dougie.  I thought that I meant something to you. *sniff . . .
>sniff*
> >
> >
> >
> >     *************************************************
> >
> >     "When people sin, everybody has to pay."
> >
> >     - Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. (dba Christ Church) (June 7, 2002)
> >
> >     For more details:  http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com
> >
> >     *************************************************
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