[Vision2020] Vindictive Tom and J Ford

Dufflepud at clearwire.net Dufflepud at clearwire.net
Fri Jul 21 21:17:07 PDT 2006



Oh most wise and noble Tom and J Ford. We on duffelpud Island salute you. We 
most certainly agree with your words. They could not have been said better. 
It is most important for us to stick together. Why most of Moscow can't see 
your  grand wisdom is beyond us dufflepuds. Why do they not understand that 
Wilson could never be harrassed even if there are a boat load of people who 
didn't like him as Tom has kindly listed. It is just not possible for him to 
be harrassed. "Not at all", that's what we say. And even if he were, why 
don't people understand that consumming the time of the Moscow police when 
there are no eye wittnesses is a most wonderful thing. For goodness sakes, 
what do they think we pay taxes for? After all investigating more serious 
matters should be set asside so the police can figure out issues such as 
nails, screws, condoms and smelly stuff. It also can't understand why people 
can't understand that anyone who disagrees with us and files a police report 
is surely a liar. What is it about people that they can't understand this 
grand wisdom? You both have been nominated for the dufflepud island award of 
the week. Well done. Keep up the wise words. We salute you. 







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> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 19:56:41 -0700
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
> To: "'g. crabtree'" <jampot at adelphia.net>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
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> It is really quite simple, GC -
> 
>  
> 
> If, in fact, those acts of harassment happened as Wilson reported to the
> police, what standard did he apply to simply restrict his "list of names" 
to
> those four people?
> 
>  
> 
> Was his standard that they had "voiced animosity" against him and his
> church?  If so, wouldn't the list be considerably longer than those four
> names?  
> 
>  
> 
> If I remember correctly, Doug Stambler also "voiced animosity" against
> Wilson a long while back.  Perhaps Stambler has returned.  
> 
>  
> 
> Perhaps Rose Huskey and Saundra Lund (after having lost their appeal 
against
> Wilson Inc.) conspired to harass Wilson.
> 
>  
> 
> Perhaps I committed these acts of harassment in retaliation after having
> read my wife's name and medical history outlined on Courtney's blog a while
> back.
> 
>  
> 
> Perhaps these acts of harassment were committed by Joan Opyr for virtually
> any number of reasons provided by Wilson and/or Courtney. 
> 
>  
> 
> Perhaps Nick Gier . . . 
> 
>  
> 
> Perhaps Bill London . . .
> 
>  
> 
> Perhaps BJ Swanson . . .
> 
>  
> 
> Perhaps Debi Robinson-Smith . . .
> 
>  
> 
> Perhaps half the City Council . . .
> 
>  
> 
> Perhaps anybody that protested his "History Conference" of February 
2004 . .
> .
> 
>  
> 
> Perhaps . . . Perhaps . . . Perhaps . . .
> 
>  
> 
> It isn't necessarily the reporting of the supposed harassment that I
> question, but why does he associate those four people (Wolf, Nolan, 
Metzler,
> and Morin) and not others?
> 
>  
> 
> Tom Hansen
> 
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
>  
> 
> *************************************************
> 
> "When people sin, everybody has to pay."
> 
> - Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. (dba Christ Church) (June 7, 2002)
> 
> For more details:  http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com
> 
> *************************************************
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: g. crabtree [mailto:jampot at adelphia.net] 
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 7:30 PM
> To: Tom Hansen; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
> 
>  
> 
> Well, I'm not sure what this has to do with my post on the wonder twins
> activities with regard to the city's budget but I love a non sequitur as
> much as Turks love taffy and fluffy towels.
> 
>  
> 
> Wilson's response to the activities at his home seems quite measured and
> reasonable. It is the same approach that I, and I assume, most normal 
people
> would take. Have the incident on file in case you should get lucky and 
catch
> the verminous vandal but not use up valuable police recourses on what will,
> almost certainly, be a lost cause as well as a matter of relatively small
> importance in the greater scheme of things. To imagine that he's making it
> all up for some dark and unexplainable reason seems a trifle silly and
> contrived.
> 
>  
> 
> gc
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: Tom Hansen <mailto:thansen at moscow.com>  
> 
> To: 'g. crabtree' <mailto:jampot at adelphia.net>  ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
> 
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:15 PM
> 
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
> 
>  
> 
> Speaking of being vindictive, GC . . .
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.tomandrodna.com/Wilsonistas/Police_Report_071805.htm
> 
>  
> 
> I especially like the paragraph on page 2 where it is stated:
> 
>  
> 
> "Wilson said that he did not want to pursue this incident, but wanted to
> have it documented."
> 
>  
> 
> If I were harassed as much as Wilson claims that he was harassed, I most
> certainly would want the police to pursue the matter.  But then, if I had
> nothing to substantiate my claim of harassment, I would not want the police
> to pursue it, merely document it to create what would be presented later as
> a "history", a false history.
> 
>  
> 
> (Oops.  I forgot to sign the posting.  Wouldn't want anybody to blow a
> gasket, now would I?)
> 
>  
> 
> Tom Hansen
> 
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
>  
> 
> PS to His Whineyness - Your harassment complaint only lists four people
> (Wolf, Nolan, Metzler, and Morin) that you claim who have "voiced animosity
> to him [Wilson] and his church."  If you check with Courtney or Arnold, I 
am
> certain that you will be provided at least nine more names.  I'm hurt,
> Dougie.  I thought that I meant something to you. *sniff . . . sniff*
> 
>  
> 
> *************************************************
> 
> "When people sin, everybody has to pay."
> 
> - Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. (dba Christ Church) (June 7, 2002)
> 
> For more details:   <http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com>
> http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com
> 
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> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 20:26:24 -0700
> From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
> To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
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> Perhaps because he has other things to be doing and rattled off the first 
few names that came to mind in an effort to move the process along, in 
response to a question on the officers form. What nefarious purpose do you 
imagine is being served by not providing the exhaustive rouges gallery that 
you have conjured up? Do you really think that the MPD is going to follow up 
on a list such as you envision? What would be the point, exactly?
> 
> gc
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Tom Hansen 
>   To: 'g. crabtree' ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
>   Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 7:56 PM
>   Subject: RE: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
> 
> 
>   It is really quite simple, GC -
> 
>    
> 
>   If, in fact, those acts of harassment happened as Wilson reported to the 
police, what standard did he apply to simply restrict his "list of names" to 
those four people?
> 
>    
> 
>   Was his standard that they had "voiced animosity" against him and his 
church?  If so, wouldn't the list be considerably longer than those four 
names?  
> 
>    
> 
>   If I remember correctly, Doug Stambler also "voiced animosity" against 
Wilson a long while back.  Perhaps Stambler has returned.  
> 
>    
> 
>   Perhaps Rose Huskey and Saundra Lund (after having lost their appeal 
against Wilson Inc.) conspired to harass Wilson.
> 
>    
> 
>   Perhaps I committed these acts of harassment in retaliation after having 
read my wife's name and medical history outlined on Courtney's blog a while 
back.
> 
>    
> 
>   Perhaps these acts of harassment were committed by Joan Opyr for 
virtually any number of reasons provided by Wilson and/or Courtney. 
> 
>    
> 
>   Perhaps Nick Gier . . . 
> 
>    
> 
>   Perhaps Bill London . . .
> 
>    
> 
>   Perhaps BJ Swanson . . .
> 
>    
> 
>   Perhaps Debi Robinson-Smith . . .
> 
>    
> 
>   Perhaps half the City Council . . .
> 
>    
> 
>   Perhaps anybody that protested his "History Conference" of February 
2004 . . .
> 
>    
> 
>   Perhaps . . . Perhaps . . . Perhaps . . .
> 
>    
> 
>   It isn't necessarily the reporting of the supposed harassment that I 
question, but why does he associate those four people (Wolf, Nolan, Metzler, 
and Morin) and not others?
> 
>    
> 
>   Tom Hansen
> 
>   Moscow, Idaho
> 
>    
> 
>   *************************************************
> 
>   "When people sin, everybody has to pay."
> 
>   - Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. (dba Christ Church) (June 7, 2002)
> 
>   For more details:  http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com
> 
>   *************************************************
> 
>    
> 
>    
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
> 
>   From: g. crabtree [mailto:jampot at adelphia.net] 
>   Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 7:30 PM
>   To: Tom Hansen; vision2020 at moscow.com
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
> 
>    
> 
>   Well, I'm not sure what this has to do with my post on the wonder twins 
activities with regard to the city's budget but I love a non sequitur as 
much as Turks love taffy and fluffy towels.
> 
>    
> 
>   Wilson's response to the activities at his home seems quite measured and 
reasonable. It is the same approach that I, and I assume, most normal people 
would take. Have the incident on file in case you should get lucky and catch 
the verminous vandal but not use up valuable police recourses on what will, 
almost certainly, be a lost cause as well as a matter of relatively small 
importance in the greater scheme of things. To imagine that he's making it 
all up for some dark and unexplainable reason seems a trifle silly and 
contrived.
> 
>    
> 
>   gc
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
>     From: Tom Hansen 
> 
>     To: 'g. crabtree' ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
> 
>     Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:15 PM
> 
>     Subject: RE: [Vision2020] vindictive, a little? (CORRECTED)
> 
>      
> 
>     Speaking of being vindictive, GC . . .
> 
>      
> 
>     http://www.tomandrodna.com/Wilsonistas/Police_Report_071805.htm
> 
>      
> 
>     I especially like the paragraph on page 2 where it is stated:
> 
>      
> 
>     "Wilson said that he did not want to pursue this incident, but wanted 
to have it documented."
> 
>      
> 
>     If I were harassed as much as Wilson claims that he was harassed, I 
most certainly would want the police to pursue the matter.  But then, if I 
had nothing to substantiate my claim of harassment, I would not want the 
police to pursue it, merely document it to create what would be presented 
later as a "history", a false history.
> 
>      
> 
>     (Oops.  I forgot to sign the posting.  Wouldn't want anybody to blow a 
gasket, now would I?)
> 
>      
> 
>     Tom Hansen
> 
>     Moscow, Idaho
> 
>      
> 
>     PS to His Whineyness - Your harassment complaint only lists four 
people (Wolf, Nolan, Metzler, and Morin) that you claim who have "voiced 
animosity to him [Wilson] and his church."  If you check with Courtney or 
Arnold, I am certain that you will be provided at least nine more names.  
I'm hurt, Dougie.  I thought that I meant something to you. *sniff . . . 
sniff*
> 
>      
> 
>     *************************************************
> 
>     "When people sin, everybody has to pay."
> 
>     - Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. (dba Christ Church) (June 7, 2002)
> 
>     For more details:  http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com
> 
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