[Vision2020] Authority To Preach

[J Ford]

Yes, but we are also supposed to have the "calling" to IT, (preaching, not 
money mongering) and those who do have the calling need to have their ENTIRE 
parishioners' interests at heart - not just some of them or those that feed 
some need in them....whatever that may be.

Jesus says there will many false prophets and those that call us out to the 
desert and we are NOT to follow them.  He also says that Satan knows the 
Bible's every word (remember how he used it to try and get Jesus to go 
against God's wishes - several times?)  We are again told to have the fruit 
of their labors be the telling marker as to if they really are God's 
spokesperson.

Dougie, in Tuesdays debate, repeatedly said he had the backing of the 
Evangelical and pastorial body of Moscow and that he attends the prayer 
breakfests every week - that was a direct mis-lead as they TOLD him he was 
not welcomed and he has NOT attended in years.  He says that CC works with 
many agencies in town every day and REFUSED to name who/what agencies those 
were.  NOT one of the agencies I contacted will confirm that they have 
worked with the CC - just call them and ask.  They will tell you one of 
several things:

"What church are you talking about?"

"You mean the Mormons?"

"No.  Never."

"We've tried to get them involved and they never reply or they say they only 
help the people in their church."  (Even Doug Jones and Mike Lawyer admit 
that the CC only help those THEY feel are worthy of help in their church.)

Etc.

The fruit of that church has been visible for some time.  Just ask those 
that have been caught up in their snare, the latest being Mike Metzler.

Jesus helped those that others considered the lowest of the low, such as the 
Samaritan woman at the well and the example of the woman requesting her wee 
barin be healed, that Miss Keely gave.  It did not matter to Him who the 
people were.  To Dougie and the CC, it matters who it is they consider 
helping.

They do NOT follow scripture - they rape it and rework it to fit it to what 
they want.  In light of that, the Scripture and Spirit are NOT lined "up 
with another and agree."

J  :]




>From: <Dufflepud at clearwire.net>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Authority To Preach
>Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 11:09:35 -0000
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>
>Keely,
>
>Does the authority of scripture come into play with regard to determining 
>if
>someone has the authority to preach?  J Ford seemed to appeal to scripture.
>If the Spirit is God's Spirit you speak of, would not the scriptures and 
>the
>Spirit line up with another and agree?
>
>
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>
>keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> said:
>
> > The Holy Spirit.  By the Spirit's gifting, by the Spirit's power, and
> > ordination simply confirms what the Spirit has done.
> >
> > keely
> >
> >
> > From: <Dufflepud at clearwire.net>
> > To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Authority To Preach
> > Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:13:05 -0000
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > There has been a question as to Doug Wilson's authority to preach. For
>those
> > of you asking this question and specifically for those of you who have
>asked
> > about his being ordained or not, where do you believe authority to 
>preach
> > comes from? Who should ordain and by what authority do they ordain?
> >
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