[Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning Law&FreewheelingCapitalism)

Art Deco deco at moscow.com
Fri Jan 13 08:27:43 PST 2006


Does anyone remember when it was called Ocean View Road before all the 
development blocked the view of the ocean?

W.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janesta Carcich" <janestacarcich at yahoo.com>
To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>; "Carl Westberg" 
<carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning 
Law&FreewheelingCapitalism)


> Donovan... you young pup! Mountain View is and always
> be... The COUNTY Road. *chuckling* I still have
> trouble remembering to refer to it as Mountain View
> and not the County Road. At that time it was gravel,
> narrow, and wtih deep drain ditch, that sadly, more
> than one person lost their live in.
>
> Janesta
>
> --- Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> . . . and Jeff's Foods, the bowling ally, the Army
>> Navy Store, the Nobby Inn, and Tri State use to sell
>> Playboy.  A  st. was a through street and Mt. View
>> was the edge of town. Safeway was  downtown.
>>
>>  I tried Carl, I was not yet a twinkle in my Dad's
>> eye in the 60's. The earliest I remember was 1976.
>> Before that I could  not see out the window and only
>> remember my Grandma's floor and webble wobbles. OH
>> yeah, and snow, lots and lots of snow. It use to
>> really snow in Moscow. Man, now I miss my Grandma
>> again. (CRY)
>>
>>   -DJA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> You've just sent me on a trip down Moscow Memory
>> Lane.  Anyone else remember
>> Fountain's Grocery on north Main, Rollefson's
>> grocery on Third Street, the
>> Sanitary Market, IGA when it was at the recent
>> Co-op, the days when the
>> Moscow Bakery and Hunter's Candy sat side by side on
>> Third Street.  Carter's
>> Drug?  The Parisian?  Fonks?  Thrifty Five and Dime?
>>  Ward Hardware?  The
>> Varsity restaurant?  Roger's Ice Cream?  I believe
>> I'm going to get misty.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                                               Carl
>> Westberg Jr.
>>
>>
>> >From: "g. crabtree"
>> >To: "Ted Moffett" ,        "Area Man (Dan C)"
>> >
>> >CC: vision2020
>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was
>> Zoning Law
>> >&FreewheelingCapitalism)
>> >Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 05:58:13 -0800
>> >
>> >Mr. Moffett, It's not how long you have been
>> here,but how early in you life
>> >you got here. If you moved to Moscow before you
>> were 5 years old your an
>> >"old timer." Everyone else is a jonney come lately.
>> Growing up in a place
>> >gives a person a certain perspective. When you have
>> seen the big, bad
>> >Safeway store move to town and displace the various
>> ma & pa markets that
>> >were the order of the day back then, you will have
>> a reference point for
>> >development in Moscow.
>> >
>> >g.crabtree
>> >   ----- Original Message -----
>> >   From: Ted Moffett
>> >   To: Area Man (Dan C)
>> >   Cc: vision2020
>> >   Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:39 AM
>> >   Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was
>> Zoning Law &
>> >FreewheelingCapitalism)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >   Dan et. al.
>> >
>> >   How long does someone need to live in Moscow or
>> the Palouse to be
>> >considered an "old timer," in your opinion?  I
>> guess you think 20 years is
>> >not enough?  Then is it 30, 40, 50 years?
>> >
>> >   Do you really think the "transplants" are
>> chasing the "old timers" out
>> >of town?  That's a strong statement.  I think some
>> accurate facts are
>> >needed to back that up.  I don't think many
>> "transplants" would like this
>> >view of their impact.
>> >
>> >   It would be interesting to attempt to survey the
>> "transplants" to really
>> >find out if they think development in the Moscow
>> area is too much or OK.  I
>> >know people who are new to the area who think that
>> those who complain about
>> >the increase in traffic, etc. to be laughable, when
>> they compare Moscow to
>> >Boston, etc. It's a relative issue, I guess.  I can
>> compare Moscow's
>> >current traffic to 1965 when I first walked the
>> streets of this "little"
>> >town, and I personally don't like the increase in
>> traffic, among other
>> >changes growth is bringing.
>> >
>> >   I like to joke with a friend of mine in Boise
>> that I am going to move to
>> >Boise to escape all the traffic up here!  But
>> really I am not totally
>> >joking.  I expect traffic and big development in
>> Boise, but I have no
>> >reference point for how Boise was 50 years ago, or
>> not a very personal
>> >heartfelt reference point.  But I do have such a
>> reference point for
>> >Moscow.
>> >
>> >   "All Things Must Pass," as the late great George
>> Harrison sang on his
>> >double solo album of the same title.
>> >
>> >   Ted Moffett
>> >
>> >   On 1/9/06, Area Man (Dan C)  wrote:
>> >     Ted said:
>> >     "The growth in population will fuel an
>> increasing mentality that does
>> >     not even know about or care about what is
>> being lost, when people with
>> >     money move to the Palouse from much bigger
>> uglier cities, who will
>> >think
>> >     that the older locals who complain about too
>> much unmanaged or ugly
>> >     development compromising the quality of life,
>> are so quaint."
>> >
>> >     I have found that a lot of people who are most
>> vocal against
>> >"unmanaged
>> >     or ugly development compromising the quality
>> of life" are not older
>> >     locals, but transplants.  Yes, there are some
>> who are vocal that have
>> >     been here their entire lives, but most have
>> not.  I'm not saying that
>> >     unmanaged development is good, I'm just
>> expressing my opinion about
>> >who
>> >     is most vocal about it (or anything else, for
>> that matter).  Part of
>> >     that reason is that the transplants are so
>> vocal and good at making
>> >     changes that it is chasing the old timers out
>> of town.
>> >
>> >     Moving to town 20 years ago doesn't make you
>> an old timer.  Definitely
>> >     not an old timer like that ol' fart John
>> Weber.
>> >
>> >     DC
>> >
>> >     P.S.  I like John, it's just been a few months
>> since the campaign, and
>> >     he probably misses me poking fun at him.
>> Although, since he is a
>> >     technophobe, he won't see this anyway.
>> >
>> >
>>
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