[Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning Law &FreewheelingCapitalism)

Janesta Carcich janestacarcich at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 12 22:32:06 PST 2006


Donovan... you young pup! Mountain View is and always
be... The COUNTY Road. *chuckling* I still have
trouble remembering to refer to it as Mountain View
and not the County Road. At that time it was gravel,
narrow, and wtih deep drain ditch, that sadly, more
than one person lost their live in.

Janesta

--- Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> . . . and Jeff's Foods, the bowling ally, the Army 
> Navy Store, the Nobby Inn, and Tri State use to sell
> Playboy.  A  st. was a through street and Mt. View
> was the edge of town. Safeway was  downtown. 
>   
>  I tried Carl, I was not yet a twinkle in my Dad's 
> eye in the 60's. The earliest I remember was 1976.
> Before that I could  not see out the window and only
> remember my Grandma's floor and webble wobbles. OH
> yeah, and snow, lots and lots of snow. It use to
> really snow in Moscow. Man, now I miss my Grandma
> again. (CRY)
>   
>   -DJA
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
> 
> Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> You've just sent me on a trip down Moscow Memory
> Lane.  Anyone else remember 
> Fountain's Grocery on north Main, Rollefson's
> grocery on Third Street, the 
> Sanitary Market, IGA when it was at the recent
> Co-op, the days when the 
> Moscow Bakery and Hunter's Candy sat side by side on
> Third Street.  Carter's 
> Drug?  The Parisian?  Fonks?  Thrifty Five and Dime?
>  Ward Hardware?  The 
> Varsity restaurant?  Roger's Ice Cream?  I believe
> I'm going to get misty.   
>                                                     
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>                         
>                                               Carl
> Westberg Jr.
> 
> 
> >From: "g. crabtree" 
> >To: "Ted Moffett" ,        "Area Man (Dan C)" 
> >
> >CC: vision2020 
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was
> Zoning Law 
> >&FreewheelingCapitalism)
> >Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 05:58:13 -0800
> >
> >Mr. Moffett, It's not how long you have been
> here,but how early in you life 
> >you got here. If you moved to Moscow before you
> were 5 years old your an 
> >"old timer." Everyone else is a jonney come lately.
> Growing up in a place 
> >gives a person a certain perspective. When you have
> seen the big, bad 
> >Safeway store move to town and displace the various
> ma & pa markets that 
> >were the order of the day back then, you will have
> a reference point for 
> >development in Moscow.
> >
> >g.crabtree
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Ted Moffett
> >   To: Area Man (Dan C)
> >   Cc: vision2020
> >   Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:39 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was
> Zoning Law & 
> >FreewheelingCapitalism)
> >
> >
> >
> >   Dan et. al.
> >
> >   How long does someone need to live in Moscow or
> the Palouse to be 
> >considered an "old timer," in your opinion?  I
> guess you think 20 years is 
> >not enough?  Then is it 30, 40, 50 years?
> >
> >   Do you really think the "transplants" are
> chasing the "old timers" out 
> >of town?  That's a strong statement.  I think some
> accurate facts are 
> >needed to back that up.  I don't think many
> "transplants" would like this 
> >view of their impact.
> >
> >   It would be interesting to attempt to survey the
> "transplants" to really 
> >find out if they think development in the Moscow
> area is too much or OK.  I 
> >know people who are new to the area who think that
> those who complain about 
> >the increase in traffic, etc. to be laughable, when
> they compare Moscow to 
> >Boston, etc. It's a relative issue, I guess.  I can
> compare Moscow's 
> >current traffic to 1965 when I first walked the
> streets of this "little" 
> >town, and I personally don't like the increase in
> traffic, among other 
> >changes growth is bringing.
> >
> >   I like to joke with a friend of mine in Boise
> that I am going to move to 
> >Boise to escape all the traffic up here!  But
> really I am not totally 
> >joking.  I expect traffic and big development in
> Boise, but I have no 
> >reference point for how Boise was 50 years ago, or
> not a very personal 
> >heartfelt reference point.  But I do have such a
> reference point for 
> >Moscow.
> >
> >   "All Things Must Pass," as the late great George
> Harrison sang on his 
> >double solo album of the same title.
> >
> >   Ted Moffett
> >
> >   On 1/9/06, Area Man (Dan C)  wrote:
> >     Ted said:
> >     "The growth in population will fuel an
> increasing mentality that does
> >     not even know about or care about what is
> being lost, when people with
> >     money move to the Palouse from much bigger
> uglier cities, who will 
> >think
> >     that the older locals who complain about too
> much unmanaged or ugly
> >     development compromising the quality of life,
> are so quaint."
> >
> >     I have found that a lot of people who are most
> vocal against 
> >"unmanaged
> >     or ugly development compromising the quality
> of life" are not older
> >     locals, but transplants.  Yes, there are some 
> who are vocal that have
> >     been here their entire lives, but most have
> not.  I'm not saying that
> >     unmanaged development is good, I'm just
> expressing my opinion about 
> >who
> >     is most vocal about it (or anything else, for
> that matter).  Part of
> >     that reason is that the transplants are so
> vocal and good at making
> >     changes that it is chasing the old timers out
> of town.
> >
> >     Moving to town 20 years ago doesn't make you
> an old timer.  Definitely
> >     not an old timer like that ol' fart John
> Weber.
> >
> >     DC
> >
> >     P.S.  I like John, it's just been a few months
> since the campaign, and
> >     he probably misses me poking fun at him. 
> Although, since he is a
> >     technophobe, he won't see this anyway.
> >
> >    
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Janesta Carcich

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