[Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning Law & Freewheeling Capitalism)

Ted Moffett starbliss at gmail.com
Thu Jan 12 00:39:51 PST 2006


Dan et. al.

How long does someone need to live in Moscow or the Palouse to be considered
an "old timer," in your opinion?  I guess you think 20 years is not enough?
Then is it 30, 40, 50 years?

Do you really think the "transplants" are chasing the "old timers" out of
town?  That's a strong statement.  I think some accurate facts are needed to
back that up.  I don't think many "transplants" would like this view of
their impact.

It would be interesting to attempt to survey the "transplants" to really
find out if they think development in the Moscow area is too much or OK.  I
know people who are new to the area who think that those who complain about
the increase in traffic, etc. to be laughable, when they compare Moscow to
Boston, etc. It's a relative issue, I guess.  I can compare Moscow's current
traffic to 1965 when I first walked the streets of this "little" town, and I
personally don't like the increase in traffic, among other changes growth is
bringing.

I like to joke with a friend of mine in Boise that I am going to move to
Boise to escape all the traffic up here!  But really I am not totally
joking.  I expect traffic and big development in Boise, but I have no
reference point for how Boise was 50 years ago, or not a very personal
heartfelt reference point.  But I do have such a reference point for Moscow.

"All Things Must Pass," as the late great George Harrison sang on his double
solo album of the same title.

Ted Moffett

On 1/9/06, Area Man (Dan C) <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> Ted said:
> "The growth in population will fuel an increasing mentality that does
> not even know about or care about what is being lost, when people with
> money move to the Palouse from much bigger uglier cities, who will think
> that the older locals who complain about too much unmanaged or ugly
> development compromising the quality of life, are so quaint."
>
> I have found that a lot of people who are most vocal against "unmanaged
> or ugly development compromising the quality of life" are not older
> locals, but transplants.  Yes, there are some  who are vocal that have
> been here their entire lives, but most have not.  I'm not saying that
> unmanaged development is good, I'm just expressing my opinion about who
> is most vocal about it (or anything else, for that matter).  Part of
> that reason is that the transplants are so vocal and good at making
> changes that it is chasing the old timers out of town.
>
> Moving to town 20 years ago doesn't make you an old timer.  Definitely
> not an old timer like that ol' fart John Weber.
>
> DC
>
> P.S.  I like John, it's just been a few months since the campaign, and
> he probably misses me poking fun at him.  Although, since he is a
> technophobe, he won't see this anyway.
>
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